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Marco Rubio said that USAID wasn’t listening to orders. They were a rogue agency. From other things I’ve read it has been an issue for multiple administrations

by vimy 2y ago

Marco Rubio said that USAID wasn’t listening to orders. They were a rogue agency. From other things I’ve read it has been an issue for multiple administrations. Watch here: https://x.com/defiantls/status/1888533363117449619?s=46 https://x.com/defiantls/status/1888533363117449619?s=46

bearjaws 2y ago
You need to understand when he says "irrespective of whether its in national interests" he means helping immigrants and asylum seekers, who are here legally even. They listen to orders from many parts of the government, some of those are even conflicting orders. It's not like they are just doing whatever they want 90% of the time. Their money comes from who again?
caspper69 2y ago
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- dang 2y ago
  Please don't cross into personal attack (as you did in this post and unfortunately also elsewhere - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42994959 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42994959). ... and please stay within the site guidelines, regardless of how wrong another commenter is or you feel they are. If you wouldn't mind reviewing https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and taking the intended spirit of the site more to heart, we'd be grateful. I realize this material is provocative and super activating but that's what this principle, for example, is intended to cover: "Comments should get more thoughtful and substantive, not less, as a topic gets more divisive."
  - caspper69 2y ago
    Understood.
  - walls 2y ago
    Which comments you put this on tells us a lot.
    - dang 2y ago
      https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&query=%22always%20feels%22%20mods%20by%3Adang&sort=byDate&type=comment https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&que...
matwood 2y ago
For all the talk of legacy media, I assume anything posted on X is misinformation. And Rubio only cares about possibly being POTUS one day. Please post an article of any other administration that has ever complained about USAID being 'rogue'?
dashundchen 2y ago
Orders can be given that are unconstitutional or unlawful. Congress appropriates and designates funds, it is illegal for the executive to impound funds Congress appropriate. Unfortunately the GOP is happy to hand over their power in Congress and walk right into a dictatorship.
georgemcbay 2y ago
Rubio was a vocal supporter of USAID until he had to bend the knee to Trump and by extension Elon. https://x.com/SenMarcoRubio/status/1298330380232200198 https://x.com/SenMarcoRubio/status/1298330380232200198 https://x.com/SenMarcoRubio/status/1109221983907184641 https://x.com/SenMarcoRubio/status/1109221983907184641 https://x.com/SenMarcoRubio/status/1179134071374598145 https://x.com/SenMarcoRubio/status/1179134071374598145 https://x.com/SenMarcoRubio/status/1011667756209573888 https://x.com/SenMarcoRubio/status/1011667756209573888 https://x.com/SenMarcoRubio/status/1331037375179452416 https://x.com/SenMarcoRubio/status/1331037375179452416 https://x.com/SenMarcoRubio/status/1557806801491578886 https://x.com/SenMarcoRubio/status/1557806801491578886 https://x.com/SenMarcoRubio/status/1222876152131457025 https://x.com/SenMarcoRubio/status/1222876152131457025 https://x.com/SenMarcoRubio/status/1173664868408483840 https://x.com/SenMarcoRubio/status/1173664868408483840 https://x.com/SenMarcoRubio/status/1097238672909451269 https://x.com/SenMarcoRubio/status/1097238672909451269
- bearjaws 2y ago
  Absolutely spineless. Thank you for showing this.
dralley 2y ago
USAID funding is controlled by Congress. Trump cannot just order them to redirect funds on a whim.
- jpadkins 2y ago
  Foreign policy is under the control of the executive branch. The President can order a pause on foreign aid to allow the new administration to review all foreign aid. Once those orders were ignored, the administration had to take more drastic steps (as SOS Rubio pointed out).
  - dralley 2y ago
    No, the President cannot just unilaterally ignore Congressional spending requirements just because "the executive controls foreign policy". That's what got him impeached the first time. They're also not "pausing" shit, they're cancelling contracts effective immediately & locking up the buildings. Elon tweeted a picture of the sign being removed from the front of the building. You're being dishonest about what is going on.
    - jpadkins 2y ago
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      - LastTrain 2y ago
        Absolutely the POTUS cannot just cancel contracts he thinks are a waste of taxpayer money. Some, not all. The President cannot ignore laws passed by Congress unless he gets agreement, by way of a court ruling, that the law is unconstitutional. Now if you are saying he can ignore all that without consequences because people bend over and let him, yes that can happen if we are all very stupid.
        jpadkins 2y ago
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by vimy 2y ago

bearjaws 2y ago

You need to understand when he says "irrespective of whether its in national interests" he means helping immigrants and asylum seekers, who are here legally even. They listen to orders from many parts of the government, some of those are even conflicting orders. It's not like they are just doing whatever they want 90% of the time. Their money comes from who again?

caspper69 2y ago

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dang 2y ago
Please don't cross into personal attack (as you did in this post and unfortunately also elsewhere - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42994959 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42994959). ... and please stay within the site guidelines, regardless of how wrong another commenter is or you feel they are. If you wouldn't mind reviewing https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and taking the intended spirit of the site more to heart, we'd be grateful. I realize this material is provocative and super activating but that's what this principle, for example, is intended to cover: "Comments should get more thoughtful and substantive, not less, as a topic gets more divisive."
- caspper69 2y ago
  Understood.
- walls 2y ago
  Which comments you put this on tells us a lot.
  - dang 2y ago
    https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&query=%22always%20feels%22%20mods%20by%3Adang&sort=byDate&type=comment https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&que...

matwood 2y ago

For all the talk of legacy media, I assume anything posted on X is misinformation. And Rubio only cares about possibly being POTUS one day. Please post an article of any other administration that has ever complained about USAID being 'rogue'?

dashundchen 2y ago

Orders can be given that are unconstitutional or unlawful. Congress appropriates and designates funds, it is illegal for the executive to impound funds Congress appropriate. Unfortunately the GOP is happy to hand over their power in Congress and walk right into a dictatorship.

georgemcbay 2y ago

Rubio was a vocal supporter of USAID until he had to bend the knee to Trump and by extension Elon. https://x.com/SenMarcoRubio/status/1298330380232200198 https://x.com/SenMarcoRubio/status/1298330380232200198 https://x.com/SenMarcoRubio/status/1109221983907184641 https://x.com/SenMarcoRubio/status/1109221983907184641 https://x.com/SenMarcoRubio/status/1179134071374598145 https://x.com/SenMarcoRubio/status/1179134071374598145 https://x.com/SenMarcoRubio/status/1011667756209573888 https://x.com/SenMarcoRubio/status/1011667756209573888 https://x.com/SenMarcoRubio/status/1331037375179452416 https://x.com/SenMarcoRubio/status/1331037375179452416 https://x.com/SenMarcoRubio/status/1557806801491578886 https://x.com/SenMarcoRubio/status/1557806801491578886 https://x.com/SenMarcoRubio/status/1222876152131457025 https://x.com/SenMarcoRubio/status/1222876152131457025 https://x.com/SenMarcoRubio/status/1173664868408483840 https://x.com/SenMarcoRubio/status/1173664868408483840 https://x.com/SenMarcoRubio/status/1097238672909451269 https://x.com/SenMarcoRubio/status/1097238672909451269

bearjaws 2y ago
Absolutely spineless. Thank you for showing this.

dralley 2y ago

USAID funding is controlled by Congress. Trump cannot just order them to redirect funds on a whim.

jpadkins 2y ago
Foreign policy is under the control of the executive branch. The President can order a pause on foreign aid to allow the new administration to review all foreign aid. Once those orders were ignored, the administration had to take more drastic steps (as SOS Rubio pointed out).
- dralley 2y ago
  No, the President cannot just unilaterally ignore Congressional spending requirements just because "the executive controls foreign policy". That's what got him impeached the first time. They're also not "pausing" shit, they're cancelling contracts effective immediately & locking up the buildings. Elon tweeted a picture of the sign being removed from the front of the building. You're being dishonest about what is going on.
  - jpadkins 2y ago
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    - LastTrain 2y ago
      Absolutely the POTUS cannot just cancel contracts he thinks are a waste of taxpayer money. Some, not all. The President cannot ignore laws passed by Congress unless he gets agreement, by way of a court ruling, that the law is unconstitutional. Now if you are saying he can ignore all that without consequences because people bend over and let him, yes that can happen if we are all very stupid.
      - jpadkins 2y ago
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