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I've been using it for developing, but for non-headless stuff IIRC there's a lot of issues with opengl drivers and hardcoded X11 paths and stuff. I dropped a g

by rendaw 2y ago

I've been using it for developing, but for non-headless stuff IIRC there's a lot of issues with opengl drivers and hardcoded X11 paths and stuff. I dropped a good chunk of time before giving up.

iamdbtoo 2y ago
I'm currently experiencing this with a Tauri-based app. Nix has been great for us for local dev and service builds, but building an application inside of Nix that needs to run outside of it has been challenging to say the least.
worble 2y ago
Yeah, I just went through this process myself on steam deck and the fact it can't access opengl or vulkan natively makes anything that isn't terminal based a massive pain in the ass. There is nixgl which you can wrap around any executable to make it work and it's got support in home-manager (https://nix-community.github.io/home-manager/options.xhtml#opt-nixGL.packages https://nix-community.github.io/home-manager/options.xhtml#o...) but it's a huge annoyance having to wrap `config.lib.nixGL.wrap <package>` around everything you want to install.
- ahoemora 2y ago
  It really depends on how you start your programs. If you wrap your compositor with nixgl then everything started through your compositior inherits the relevant env vars (LD_LIBRARY_PATH etc.) and you don't have to wrap the programs separately.
IshKebab 2y ago
It's really 50 years of Unix's dumb practice of installing everything at absolute paths in `/usr` that has come home to roost. I wonder if Nix will finally make people write relocatable apps.
- bronson 2y ago
  The opposite. Everything must be in /nix.
  - otabdeveloper4 2y ago
    No, each Nix app gets its own tree root. (Honestly the same thing Mac, Android, etc., also do, so not such a strange idea.)
  - IshKebab 2y ago
    It's designed like that because of this issue. They obviously don't want to do that, but if they don't install everything in global absolute paths then too much badly written software breaks. It's a symptom, not a cause.
phaer 2y ago
Did you try https://github.com/numtide/nix-gl-host/ https://github.com/numtide/nix-gl-host/ to help with nix & opengl drivers on non-nixos distros?

by rendaw 2y ago

I've been using it for developing, but for non-headless stuff IIRC there's a lot of issues with opengl drivers and hardcoded X11 paths and stuff. I dropped a good chunk of time before giving up.

iamdbtoo 2y ago

I'm currently experiencing this with a Tauri-based app. Nix has been great for us for local dev and service builds, but building an application inside of Nix that needs to run outside of it has been challenging to say the least.

worble 2y ago

Yeah, I just went through this process myself on steam deck and the fact it can't access opengl or vulkan natively makes anything that isn't terminal based a massive pain in the ass. There is nixgl which you can wrap around any executable to make it work and it's got support in home-manager (https://nix-community.github.io/home-manager/options.xhtml#opt-nixGL.packages https://nix-community.github.io/home-manager/options.xhtml#o...) but it's a huge annoyance having to wrap `config.lib.nixGL.wrap <package>` around everything you want to install.

ahoemora 2y ago
It really depends on how you start your programs. If you wrap your compositor with nixgl then everything started through your compositior inherits the relevant env vars (LD_LIBRARY_PATH etc.) and you don't have to wrap the programs separately.

IshKebab 2y ago

It's really 50 years of Unix's dumb practice of installing everything at absolute paths in `/usr` that has come home to roost. I wonder if Nix will finally make people write relocatable apps.

bronson 2y ago
The opposite. Everything must be in /nix.
- otabdeveloper4 2y ago
  No, each Nix app gets its own tree root. (Honestly the same thing Mac, Android, etc., also do, so not such a strange idea.)
- IshKebab 2y ago
  It's designed like that because of this issue. They obviously don't want to do that, but if they don't install everything in global absolute paths then too much badly written software breaks. It's a symptom, not a cause.

phaer 2y ago

Did you try https://github.com/numtide/nix-gl-host/ https://github.com/numtide/nix-gl-host/ to help with nix & opengl drivers on non-nixos distros?