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I get a wall of text with cookie approval/rejection buttons, but on mobile I can't even scroll to the top of the text to read it all. What a failure.

by gpvos 2y ago

fsflover 2y ago
Try to switch off js.
firtoz 2y ago
Was it gdpr compliant at least
- ben_w 2y ago
  I think so — clear button saying "Reject All / Alle Ablehnen" at the bottom.
- gpvos 2y ago
  That's the point: I can't know since I can't read what they're asking of me.
ta1243 2y ago
Deliberate choice by the company trying to take your data. They don't have to do that, they want you to be pissed off with the wrong people.
- ben_w 2y ago
  EDIT: ignore all this, as per other comment, this appears to be an unrelated company registered in a different country. The real [Deutsche] "Gesellschaft für Datenschutz" seems to be: https://www.gdd.de https://www.gdd.de - Before edit: Given this is one of the organisations who help give governments draft laws by advising them, and whose purpose is to help its members obey those laws, that would be rather self-defeating. And given the web design apparent on the following page, I think this is much more easily explained as "bad web design": https://dg-datenschutz.de/imprint/ https://dg-datenschutz.de/imprint/
- rustc 2y ago
  The choices are driven by the extra revenue and will not change until mass enforcement. Some sites (mostly news) even have a "buy subscription" or "accept cookies" option which I thought was not allowed under GDPR.
  - reddalo 2y ago
    Spoiler: it's not allowed. But until they get huge fines, they will continue doing that.
    - deleted 2y ago
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    - ta1243 2y ago
      EU should have just banned all collection. You give an inch and the parasites take a mile. If given an active choice nobody* would ever go "yes I want you to sell my data to your 1,414 carefully selected partners". Maybe they want personalisation when they sign up for an account, but you ask them that at signup time, not the first time they land on your page. * where nobody < 1%
nottorp 2y ago
And it's in German right?
- hkwerf 2y ago
  At this time of day, I'd wager half of the users here are able to comprehend German texts. The other half knows how to use a translation tool.
  - nottorp 2y ago
    Funny you should say that... a friend sent me a page in german yesterday, helpfully linked directly through google translate so I can read it in a language i understand. Unfortunately, the cookie dialog was missed by "the translation tool" and both accept and reject kinda look the same to me.
    - hkwerf 2y ago
      I concede that cookie banners are not helpful here. I also admit that I rarely see them anymore, as uBlock Origin removes them for me. I probably shouldn't have assumed that the web I see is the web everyone else sees.
      - nottorp 2y ago
        Oh. Very interesting point there. I have uBlock Origin (mind, with the default settings). I also have the Consent-O-Matic autofill extension that's supposed to reject cookies automatically for me. Neither of them seems to catch cookie dialogs on some german sites. Not that I want uBlock to hide the cookie dialogs, I want them explicitly rejected by the other extension. Consent-O-Matic does automatically reject most crap on english and romanian sites so I guess they haven't added support for whatever cookie dialog zeit.de uses (and that's popular on german sites?). > both accept and reject kinda look the same to me I bet that's very intentional too, and there are other ways to phrase it in German so the two options don't look similar.
        2y ago
pavlov 2y ago
The wall of text is horrible UI, but at least there's a checkbox with an obvious label: "Do not sell or share my personal information (CCPA/CPRA)." Most other websites try to hide this fundamental choice from you behind dialogs and endless options. (And of course outside the EU you don't even get to control this, your data will always be collected and sold.)
- iinnPP 2y ago
  It's not well known but Canada also has rules (for any company or agency covered by Federal privacy law) around respecting the users wishes and gaining meaningful consent. And as someone who was successful in making such claim, it was a relatively easy process.
jokoon 2y ago
I'm using materialistic on Android to scroll hn, and sometimes the article shows as black.

I get a wall of text with cookie approval/rejection buttons, but on mobile I can't even scroll to the top of the text to read it all. What a failure.

by gpvos 2y ago

I get a wall of text with cookie approval/rejection buttons, but on mobile I can't even scroll to the top of the text to read it all. What a failure.

fsflover 2y ago

Try to switch off js.

firtoz 2y ago

Was it gdpr compliant at least

ben_w 2y ago
I think so — clear button saying "Reject All / Alle Ablehnen" at the bottom.
gpvos 2y ago
That's the point: I can't know since I can't read what they're asking of me.

ta1243 2y ago

Deliberate choice by the company trying to take your data. They don't have to do that, they want you to be pissed off with the wrong people.

ben_w 2y ago
EDIT: ignore all this, as per other comment, this appears to be an unrelated company registered in a different country. The real [Deutsche] "Gesellschaft für Datenschutz" seems to be: https://www.gdd.de https://www.gdd.de - Before edit: Given this is one of the organisations who help give governments draft laws by advising them, and whose purpose is to help its members obey those laws, that would be rather self-defeating. And given the web design apparent on the following page, I think this is much more easily explained as "bad web design": https://dg-datenschutz.de/imprint/ https://dg-datenschutz.de/imprint/
rustc 2y ago
The choices are driven by the extra revenue and will not change until mass enforcement. Some sites (mostly news) even have a "buy subscription" or "accept cookies" option which I thought was not allowed under GDPR.
- reddalo 2y ago
  Spoiler: it's not allowed. But until they get huge fines, they will continue doing that.
  - deleted 2y ago
    [deleted]
  - ta1243 2y ago
    EU should have just banned all collection. You give an inch and the parasites take a mile. If given an active choice nobody* would ever go "yes I want you to sell my data to your 1,414 carefully selected partners". Maybe they want personalisation when they sign up for an account, but you ask them that at signup time, not the first time they land on your page. * where nobody < 1%

nottorp 2y ago

And it's in German right?

hkwerf 2y ago
At this time of day, I'd wager half of the users here are able to comprehend German texts. The other half knows how to use a translation tool.
- nottorp 2y ago
  Funny you should say that... a friend sent me a page in german yesterday, helpfully linked directly through google translate so I can read it in a language i understand. Unfortunately, the cookie dialog was missed by "the translation tool" and both accept and reject kinda look the same to me.
  - hkwerf 2y ago
    I concede that cookie banners are not helpful here. I also admit that I rarely see them anymore, as uBlock Origin removes them for me. I probably shouldn't have assumed that the web I see is the web everyone else sees.
    - nottorp 2y ago
      Oh. Very interesting point there. I have uBlock Origin (mind, with the default settings). I also have the Consent-O-Matic autofill extension that's supposed to reject cookies automatically for me. Neither of them seems to catch cookie dialogs on some german sites. Not that I want uBlock to hide the cookie dialogs, I want them explicitly rejected by the other extension. Consent-O-Matic does automatically reject most crap on english and romanian sites so I guess they haven't added support for whatever cookie dialog zeit.de uses (and that's popular on german sites?). > both accept and reject kinda look the same to me I bet that's very intentional too, and there are other ways to phrase it in German so the two options don't look similar.
      - 2y ago

pavlov 2y ago

The wall of text is horrible UI, but at least there's a checkbox with an obvious label: "Do not sell or share my personal information (CCPA/CPRA)." Most other websites try to hide this fundamental choice from you behind dialogs and endless options. (And of course outside the EU you don't even get to control this, your data will always be collected and sold.)

iinnPP 2y ago
It's not well known but Canada also has rules (for any company or agency covered by Federal privacy law) around respecting the users wishes and gaining meaningful consent. And as someone who was successful in making such claim, it was a relatively easy process.

jokoon 2y ago

I'm using materialistic on Android to scroll hn, and sometimes the article shows as black.