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The majority of men can fully stop hair loss with oral finasteride. Some need the stronger dutasteride for it. Both medications are known to stop and even rev
by Traubenfuchs 2y ago
The majority of men can fully stop hair loss with oral finasteride.
Some need the stronger dutasteride for it.
Both medications are known to stop and even revert hair loss, but the real regrowth usually happens if you additionally take oral minoxidil.
I am on dut+min for years now.
Neither of those three is without side effects though and they can‘t revive „truly dead“ follicles, so this is great news.
- kelnos 2y agoTried both finasteride and dutasteride in my 20s, and neither one did anything for me. Looking back on it, I'm lucky I didn't end up with permanent libido issues or erectile dysfunction.
- pstuart 2y agoHopefully this works for those of us who do experience side effects from finasteride.
- arrowsmith 2y agoWhy bother? I don't really care about going bald. If baldness was as unattractive to women as many men think it is, male pattern baldness wouldn't have evolved.
- apeescape 2y agoMany people do care about it though, just see the market size of hair implants and Rogaine.
- barrenko 2y ago> men care.
- stavros 2y agoMen care because women care. I don't think it's that far-fetched that women prefer men with hair, and, as someone who had hair, then didn't, and now does again, I can definitely confirm it.
- thaumasiotes 2y agoWomen are free with their opinions on men's looks. They want to see height, chest hair, facial hair... but they seem pretty consistent in stating that they don't really care about baldness. They don't know what men care about either. https://www.basicinstructions.net/basic-instructions/2011/12/27/how-to-make-fun-of-the-opposite-sex.html https://www.basicinstructions.net/basic-instructions/2011/12... > How many times have you heard women complain about high heels, insinuating that it's men's fault they wear them? > Many. > How many times have you rejected a woman because her shoes were too flat?
- arrowsmith 2y agoDamn, I haven't read Basic Instructions in a loooong time. Glad to see it's still going strong!
- thaumasiotes 2y agoWell, it reached a stopping point, reran the entire history of the comic, and then started up again once that was finished.
- tempestn 2y agoUnless most procreation was done before it developed.
- CalRobert 2y agoIt usually sets in past your prime years though. Maybe it was an advantage on a societal level to make men less attractive in middle age compared to young men. (I say this as a 42 year old who misses my hair)
- root_axis 2y agoNot necessarily true. It could be that MPB evolved because it allowed females to select for younger males.
- Slava_Propanei 2y ago[dead]
- thaumasiotes 2y agoNo, that's not a possibility. The fact that a trait is harmful to you can never be the reason you evolved it.
- AnthonyMouse 2y agoThe more likely explanation is something like, higher temperatures impair cognitive function and older men were more likely to be in the village conducting business around the fire or in the presence of indoor heating than freezing their butts off in the wilderness as the younger men did, so they evolved to start having less insulation on their heads after they leave adolescence.
- Ekaros 2y agoOr that some random mutations do not have evolutionary consequences. Also lot of powerful people have had lot of offspring despite baldness.
- AnthonyMouse 2y ago"Nature did this for no reason" is in general not the default assumption. It's not that it can never happen, but rather that as soon as there are two phenotypes, evolution is going to start selecting for one of them over the other in any given environment unless the difference has zero effect on evolutionary fitness, which is unusual.
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- DamnYuppie 2y agoI am not sure that makes sense, historically people were marrying and having children much younger. I am talking about under 20 years of age. As such I don't think it would have much impact on mate selection as it was done when they were younger and had more "follicle vibrancy".
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- otikik 2y agoEvolution only “cares” (it doesn’t care; you know what I mean) about attractiveness during the time the male is able to procreate. Which is, <= 30 years. After that, the human animal is dead of sickness, malnutrition or a fight. The human person lives way longer thanks to modern medicine and tech. Evolution might “cares” about the male sticking around defending/teaching the family/tribe until he dies. He doesn’t need to be attractive by that point.
- AnthonyMouse 2y agoIn the before times there were more things that could kill you early, but many people still lived into old age, e.g. the Roman Emperor Augustus (born in 63 BC) lived to the age of 75, and not all old men get ED.
- otikik 2y agoThe human animal is the one the evolution cares about. It’s the one that lives in caves, hunts by exhausting its prey and uses only rudimentary tools. Ausgustus is far removed from that.
- cosmic_cheese 2y agoI think it depends a lot on factors like head size/shape, proportionality to the rest of the body, etc. Some guys look amazing bald, but having been almost bald (very close cut) I find it quite awkward looking on myself.
- bufferoverflow 2y agoShort men are really unattractive to women, yet there are lots of them.
- seanthemon 2y agoWould love to hear the side effects, i'm balding and was considering this or just going full chop
- Springtime 2y agoFrom what I've read finasteride can cause general psychological adverse events, including suicidal ideation[1], in mostly younger people. Heard someone saying their suicidal thoughts began when taking it and stopped when not, leading them to find more info about it. [1] https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33175100/ https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33175100/
- raffraffraff 2y agoAlso loss of libido, erectile dysfunction. It's a gas. Imagine being 60 years old, working out, doing Botox, taking finasteride, looking great, attracting glances from women 20 years younger. Can't get it up and keep thinking about killing oneself. It's a deal
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- IlPeach 2y agoOh yeah. Full chop be it!
- UberFly 2y agoGo full chop and live like you don't care (which you shouldn't).
- littlecranky67 2y agoOther opinion here: Women really find hair attractive, and without it you will have harder time dating. Lot of bald man compensate this somehow (career,gym, etc.).
- chakintosh 2y ago> The majority of men can fully stop hair loss with oral finasteride. I did that, and it completely ruined my libido for almost 3 years. Never again.
- baldieburner 2y agoSame. I took finasteride (propecia) for a week and it caused ED for 60 days in my early 20s when libido was usually strong. Would not recommend finasteride. Hair did grow back thick, but it was not worth it. Scariest 60 days of my life. Also felt strange because I think it reduces testosterone; I felt more easily upset and different to usual. Difficult to describe and I'm no expert. I was suddenly very happy to be bald, as the finasteride alternative was far worse and a scary experience.
- chakintosh 2y agoFor me it wasn't just ED. It outright shut down my libido. I had absolutely no interest in sex whatsoever.
- zdc1 2y agoI've been taking 1mg orally for 2-3 years with noticeable side effects
- stavros 2y agoWhat are the side effects you've noticed?
- Traubenfuchs 2y agoThe funny thing is, the same happened for me. I could only get it up with tadalafil. Yet half a year later I decided to take the deal with the devil: What good is my libido if I can't get hookups anymore due to hair loss? I'd rather keep my hair and lose my libido. And so I went on finasteride again. The most feared and vilified medication in existence. I just took the finasteride and swallowed lots of tadalafil every day and things just worked that way. Half a year ago I decided to switch to dutasteride because I felt like I was slowly losing ground again. I still couldn't get it up without my penis pills and was always nervous about timing them correctly to not be embarrassed during sex. But then I ended up in a relationship which kind of reduced this stress. If I can't get it up, I can't get it up and I don't care. There are other ways to satisfy my partner. And guess what: My penis actually works and I can have sex -any time I do not plan it. What I want to say is: I read all this nightmare fuel about fin and dut and suffered from severe nocebo. People worrying about hair loss are neurotic. Those that take fin or dut after reading all their scary side effects must be super neurotic. We are easy prey to the nocebo effect and playing mind games with ourselves.
- swat535 2y agoThey really can't , not to mention there are other diseases like "Lichen Planus Pilaris" that currently have no cures.