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OpenWrt 24.10.0 – First Stable Release
- nticompass 2y agoShould I update my router over SSH while I'm at work, or should I just wait until I get home?
- ndsipa_pomu 2y agoGo for it! What's the worst that could happen?
- dsr_ 2y agoDo you have people or services at home who would be upset with an interruption until you get home? Plan for the worst reasonable case: upgrading will fail and knock your router offline until you can fix it or replace it.
- pm2222 2y agoAPK will have to wait till 25.
- saidinesh5 2y agoFor those who didn't immediately get it, it looks like openwrt is trying to move to the package manager from Alpine Linux: https://openwrt.org/docs/guide-user/additional-software/opkg-to-apk-cheatsheet https://openwrt.org/docs/guide-user/additional-software/opkg... Btw what's the go-to device / vendor for OpenWrt these days? Seems like tplink is lagging behind with my last Archer C7..
- 3abiton 2y agoIt depends on the features you want. My approach is to search in their supported devices, and sort by ram.
- ronnier 2y agoI just get a small x86 box and then buy stand alone POE access points for wifi.
- anotherhue 2y agoSame. NixOS with some cheap 2.5G ethernet cards and a ubiquiti AP. Power draw is pretty low and I don't have to deal with yet another ecosystem. Don't misunderstand me, I've used OpenWRT on many things including an original WRTgl, but I'd rather something boring these days.
- kirenida 2y agoGL-Inet Flint2, maybe?
- Link512 2y agoJust got 2 of these a few days ago and am super happy with them. The firmware it comes with is essentially OpenWRT with a fancier UI so that means that you can use an OpenWRT sysupgrade image to flash it to OpenWRT with no issues. WiFi6 and Hardware Flow Offloading (HFO) are super nice features of this particular router. Downside is that it has 4 1G LAN ports and 2 2.5G (1 WAN, 1 WAN/LAN) ports, so you're kind of stuck with gigabit.
- tssva 2y agoI use a flint2 as the router for my 2Gbs internet connection, a Wireguard VPN server and to provide network connectivity for devices in my garage which is where the router lives. I use the 2.5Gbs WAN/LAN port to uplink it to a switch in my basement where all my cabling terminates and a small rack lives. This switch then provides a mixture of 2.5, 5 and 10Gbs ports. The point being that the flint2 doesn’t limit me to 1Gbs.
- xyse53 2y agoI replaced my Archers with glinet Flint 2 devices.
- buccal 2y agoIt should be noted that GL-Inet does not support or is affiliated with OpenWRT in any way. More on that: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42285923 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42285923
- mrbigbob 2y agoFor those that may not be aware if you are interested in the Flint 2 but havent purchased yet Glinet is releasing the Flint 3 soonish (they have a product page up saying coming soon). Not much is known about it other than it will be wifi 7 compatible https://www.gl-inet.com/products/gl-be9300/ https://www.gl-inet.com/products/gl-be9300/
- FeistySkink 2y agoIt's using Qualcomm IPQ53xx, so will take a while before it's supported by Linux/OpenWrt. I don't think even IPQ50xx has been merged yet. Edit: http://download.gl-inet.com/releases/qsdk_v12.5/kmod-4.7/be9300-ipq53xx/ http://download.gl-inet.com/releases/qsdk_v12.5/kmod-4.7/be9...
- dvdbloc 2y agoThere is also the router made in partnership with OpenWRT, the OpenWRT One. I’m using one right now and it has been very stable just on the RC builds for this release for a few weeks now. This is the first actual release supporting this device. The device itself is pretty nice with a JTAG header on the board so it's pretty clear that it is a hacker-friendly device. Haven’t needed to use that yet though…
- fnordahl 2y agoAs others have mentioned, the OpenWrt One is great. 2.5Gbps WAN port makes it future proof, currently using it as the gateway for the residential 1Gbps fiber. Next hurdle is to make ISP upgrade their ONU to have a 2.5Gbps port so I can get ACTUAL 1Gbps out of it, but it will likely also mean they need to upgrade the entire string of GPON equipment, so likely have to wait for a bit. Also have success with OpenWRT on the ultra low cost Mi AX3600, while hardware acceleration is not supported, it is nice to not have to run out of date Chinese firmware.
- kettleballroll 2y agoI needed to answer that question a month ago. The One felt too untested. Most people recommend the Flint2, but it felt expensive. So I landed on the asus RT AX53U
- bubblethink 2y agoFor routing, x86 is going to have the best perf for CPU intensive tasks like QoS. For wireless, mediatek is well supported upstream. WiFi is wifi 6 only though. Wifi 6E and 7 are in the works but will take a while to stabilize. My set up is an old lenovo thinkcentre nano IoT box as the router and netgear wax220 as AP, both running openwrt.
- jabl 2y agoFor Wifi, things with the ath9k was the gold standard for a while, though then Qualcomm bought Atheros, but supposedly the followup ath10k/11k/12k drivers are decent too. Mediatek MT76xx/79xx (mt76 driver) are also considered very good. See https://github.com/morrownr/USB-WiFi/blob/main/home/USB_WiFi_Chipsets.md https://github.com/morrownr/USB-WiFi/blob/main/home/USB_WiFi... (yes this is specifically about USB adapters, but usually the same driver is used for built-in WIFI in access points as well) https://wireless.docs.kernel.org/en/latest/en/users/drivers.html https://wireless.docs.kernel.org/en/latest/en/users/drivers....
- mrbluecoat 2y agoThis release also supports the latest Realtek RTL8169 drivers, popular with inexpensive mini PCs. Great job, OpenWrt Team!
- shmerl 2y agoAsus RT-AX89X works pretty well with OpenWRT now (make sure it's revision B, avoid any A revisions). But if you want 10 Gbps for wired connection with upstream support, you need something else (like DEC750 which has no wifi).
- ponorin 2y agoGL.inet makes routers with a fork of OpenWRT. The actual OpenWRT is only a flash away (you can flash the upgrade directly from the stock firmware). Their products are very solid and I will probably buy routers exclusively from them going forward.
- pbasista 2y agoI would suggest checking out their Table of Hardware [0]. You can filter it by various fairly detailed criteria. From my experience, given the local availability constraints, I often only get a handful of practical options to choose from. For something like a successor to TP-Link Archer C7 with WiFi 6 support, I have chosen TP-Link Archer AX23 [1] and it seems okay to me so far as a cheap wired-to-wireless edge device. [0] https://openwrt.org/toh/views/start https://openwrt.org/toh/views/start [1] https://openwrt.org/toh/tp-link/archer_ax23_v1 https://openwrt.org/toh/tp-link/archer_ax23_v1
- tepmoc 2y agoAs previous owner of Archer C7, Archer AX23 barely upgrade if you want to install additional packages as it have same 16/128 flash/memory configuration just like C7. Personally I upgraded to xiaomi Router AX3200 with 128/256 flash memory configuration and 4:4 MIMO, though it lacks USB and have WAN+3LAN ports compare to usual WAN+4LAN.
- saghul 2y agoReally looking forward to that one.
- choobacker 2y agoOpenWRT is pretty great at offering features and security for consumer devices. Glad to see a release! I used it for a while, but after I've had it for a few months, and want to improve/diagnose something, I can't easily tell which config I've changed from defaults, and so can't easily diagnose how I might have screwed it up, or predict how changes will impact the rest of the system. I moved my router to NixOS, where I can now see the ~250 config that covers the custom setup needed for my ISP/LAN. If asked, I'd still recommend OpenWRT for most techies, since it's easier to get started.
- arjvik 2y agoWhat hardware do you use for your router?
- choobacker 2y agoI use a https://www.pcengines.ch/apu2.htm https://www.pcengines.ch/apu2.htm with a separate wifi access point. That's EOL now, so nowadays I'd look to ARM e.g. https://radxa.com/products/network-computer/e52c https://radxa.com/products/network-computer/e52c
- Piraty 2y agoI use ancient+cheap netgear SOHO routers (WNDR3700 v1 and v2 from ~2012) which can route 940Mbps on ethernet (with software flow offloading enabled). For wireless AP i have an Mediatek MT7621 device, they are very well supported and provide proper wifi throuput
- Firefishy 2y agohttps://protectli.com/ https://protectli.com/ Good quality devices. Real serial consoles to allow recovery when you make a networking configuration mistake ;-)
- LinuxBender 2y agoSame here. Alpine Linux on top of that + Unbound DNS, dnsmasq for DHCP, netfilter, chronyd for time. I've never been able to make them break a sweat.
- TMWNN 2y agoI use the Merlin firmware for my Asus router. I've long heard of OpenWRT but do not know how they compare.
- toast0 2y agoI used Merlin on my TM-AC1900 APs for some time. It's more or less a slightly customized build of the AsusWrt firmware, with a bit easier time for fiddling, like adding packages and shell access. The webui is the Asus ui, with some tweaks. Merlin only runs on asus devices. OpenWrt is distribution that works more or less the same on all of the supported hardware. IMHO, the Asus firmware is reasonable, so it's not a bad place to start, but some manufacturers have pretty minimalistic firmware and IMHO, something like OpenWRT that provides fairly consistent capabilities across a range of hardware is really handy (when OpenWRT supports your hardware anyway). I run OpenWRT on an LTE gateway, and on my new APs, although I'm running off a fork right now because the ath11k drivers in 24.10 didn't work well for me in the rc builds; hopefully after this release settles down, snapshot builds will move to the newer linux kernel and I can switch to that.
- kurlberg 2y agoI have used merlin for quite a while, mostly happy (except for some security holes...) However, once asus drops support for older devices (e.g. rt-ac68u and rt-ac86u), merlin might also drop it. For now rt-ac68u is dropped by merlin, but ac86u is fine for now (at least until the end of the year.) Upshot: if you care about very long term support, openwrt is nice.
- kalleboo 2y agoOpenWrt is great. I recently got 10 Gbit internet at home and had to replace my Ubiquiti USG3, and running OpenWrt on a Lenovo Tiny PC is easy and efficient. OpenWrt 24 adds support for configuring the ISP's IPIP6 tunnel I need to access IPv4 on my IPv6-native connection - for now I've been manually installing the newer package straight out of the 24 RCs into my OpenWrt 23 install but now I guess I can upgrade the whole install! I also tried pfSense/opnSense but it seems like the FreeBSD kernel struggles with 10 Gbit network connections without picking very specific hardware, but Linux works perfectly (had a similar experience with TrueNAS CORE vs SCALE)
- manoweb 2y agoExcuse me but what do you need 10Gbps internet for? What is the use case? I get the cheapest thing that Comcast provides (50Mbps) and it seems to be enough for the 5 of us at home, everybody always streaming, gaming etc. I have an old asus router I got used in 2015 that I repaired with zip ties otherwise it powers off. At work we have 'infinite' internet (on a class A IP block) and I do not feel any difference in browsing or streaming (obviously I do if I need to transfer a file)
- dikei 2y agoThe use-case is because it's so cheap, why bother with anything less. Currently, I can get 1Gbps Internet for $15, while the cheapest package is 200Mbps for $5. I expect they'll offer 10Gbps in my area in the next few years for the same cost as the 1Gbps now. Still, at that speed, the router CPU can actually become the bottleneck, and OpenWRT currently has pretty poor support for hardware accelerated routing.
- kalleboo 2y ago> at that speed, the router CPU can actually become the bottleneck I was pretty worried about that, but the machine I got for my OpenWrt router is a Lenovo ThinkCentre Tiny with a Core i3-8100T CPU ($80 used with SSD/RAM etc included), and it's seems like it's way overkill, even at full bore the CPU usage appears to be negligible. Power usage is the same as the ISP router at about 17W idle, 24W routing 10 gbit, and that's with a 10 Gbase-T SFP+. It helps that with a 10 Gbps pipe you don't need to run any kind of fancy QoS algorithms or anything...
- AlgebraFox 2y agoJust upgraded. All customization were automatically applied with no issues so far. Amazing work OpenWrt team.
- jabl 2y agoI've generally had success with openwrt upgrades, however when reading the release notes it seems my target has now converted from swconfig to DSA which means all configuration has to be done from scratch. Oh well, I didn't have that extensive configuration anyway.
- blackeyeblitzar 2y agoIs there a recommended hardware and step by step guide for those new to this? Can you do mesh networks?
- snvzz 2y agoThe OpenWRT One is a good starting point, if it covers your needs.
- hkwerf 2y ago> Is there a recommended hardware and step by step guide for those new to this? What exactly are you planning to do? OpenWrt is quite flexible. There's this https://openwrt.org/toh/buyerguide https://openwrt.org/toh/buyerguide. > Can you do mesh networks? Yes. Note also https://openwisp.org/ https://openwisp.org/ if you want to do a whole fleet of OpenWrt routers.
- rubenbe 2y agoI've always found openwisp to be tailored to massive fleets of OpenWrt routers (100+). Not really for a home setup where you have a handful of devices (5-10). Alternatives are welcome since I haven't found anything yet.
- Piraty 2y agothis non-official version (uses upstream TOH data though) is much more responsive and has better filters: https://soif.github.io/OpenWrtTOH/ https://soif.github.io/OpenWrtTOH/ Wiki has you covered for beginners guide
- newsre4der 2y agoAll routers should use OpenWRT as a base
- demonshreder 2y agoI am sure TPLink already use OpenWRT as base for many routers
- vesinisa 2y agoLots of them seem to in fact do, even if they don't advertise it :)
- Ambroos 2y agoUniFi access points run OpenWRT. The latest beta releases for the U7 series for example is on OpenWRT 23.05.
- jillyboel 2y agoLots of them do, with their own crappy webui that conceals all the useful functionality.
- ndsipa_pomu 2y agoAnyone know if this supports the nanopi range? Edit: they've got sysupgrade packages for the r6c at least so the answer is yes
- henriks 2y agoI'm happily running a rc of this on a nanopi r3s
- ndsipa_pomu 2y agoI've got an r5c running friendlywrt 23 and am looking to migrate it onto an r6c that I've got (the addition of an nvme drive makes it a lot more powerful for running containers). I'm glad I waited for this release.
- LargoLasskhyfv 2y agoGo there https://openwrt.org/toh/start https://openwrt.org/toh/start and enter NanoPi in the search field? Gives 17 entries…
- ndsipa_pomu 2y agoYeah I should have checked there before asking. I'd just looked at the release notes
- sandreas 2y agoI use 24.10 with a NanoPI R5S and it works as expected. Wifi via NVMe Adapter needed some tinkering, but Mediatek ftw. Most time wasted for the custom 3d printed case cover to fit the Adapter + wifi antennas
- tuananh 2y agoi went with a mini pc, passive cooling & opnsense. It's been a great for the last few years. Stable as a rock.
- voxadam 2y agoOPNsense running on a mini PC with OpenWRT access points is where it's at.
- kozak 2y agoI always wanted to try OpenWRT but was put off by the necessity of doing hardware modifications to stock routers to gain root access. So naturally, once I found out that they were releasing some official hardware for OpenWRT (the OpenWRT One router), I ordered it as soon as possible. The router is excellent! It solved my bufferbloat issues and much more.
- kubik369 2y agoYou must have had a bad luck/small sample size as majority of consumer routers can be flashed to OpenWRT by selecting the firmware file on the admin page and letting do its thing the exact same way as the original manufacturer update, or by using a TFTP recovery. From the top of my head, I recall only Xiaomi routers needing to be rooted/exploited.
- sandreas 2y agoJust get a Banana Pi BPI R4 or NanoPi R6S they have microSD slots and/or NVMe. Or just an x64 device (Intel N100 or N305) with multiple network ports.
- ndsipa_pomu 2y agoI don't think the nanopi r6s has an NVMe slot, but the r6c definitely does
- sandreas 2y agoR5s has one :-)
- ndsipa_pomu 2y agoOh great - I don't need another nanopi and yet I'm now going to check out the spec/price for that one. NVMe is great for adding swap and frequently updating containers. Edit: just checked and it's only got 2 or 4gb ram so I'm less interested in it.
- harha 2y agoI’ve had quite a hard time compared to setting up my router with opnsense, but I do get how challenging it is to offer something that lets you configure everything on just about any device. It would be quite hard getting sane defaults for all sorts of configs, e.g. multi AP setup as in my case.
- selykg 2y agoHopefully this is a simple question. I have a busted (seemingly) EdgeRouter from Ubiquiti that needs replacing. I am currently on an old ASUS that was from the before times and it's "fine" but not updated any longer (even with the 3rd party firmware). So I'm in the market to get something new. What's a nice all in one unit for OpenWRT? I have a very small 1000sqft house so generally speaking I have zero issues with range and everything is wireless anyway. I just want reliability and set it and forget it, generally speaking.
- srmatto 2y agoCheck out teklager, I suspect they have the best option for you but my research on this was done about 2 years ago so you might want to have a look around. There's cheaper options that come from China but I am paranoid about back doors. https://teklager.se/en/knowledge-base/which-router-should-i-buy/ https://teklager.se/en/knowledge-base/which-router-should-i-...
- Ecco 2y agoI recommend a Dynalink AX3600. Really fast CPU, tons of RAM, great WiFi, and works perfectly with OpenWrt. $59 on Amazon.
- neilv 2y agoI've been running an old Netgear R7800, as an all-in-one plastic OpenWrt router+switch+WiFi. It's been so solid, that I haven't bothered to move to the Netgear RAX120v2 that I bought as an OpenWrt upgrade. (It tested fine with OpenWrt 24-rc, then I put it in storage for a more pressing occasion to upgrade.) I also got a Netgear WAX220 WiFi AP, which I put OpenWrt 24-rc on, and tested with an OPNsense box (since OPNsense isn't good for WiFi). I decided I preferred OpenWrt for my simple needs for the router, but it's a nice enough OpenWRT WiFi AP that I expect to need it again someday, maybe to hang off a beefy OpenWrt PC-based router that's running IDS/IPS or something.
- mastax 2y agoI went searching the OpenWRT forums and wiki for recommendations and ended up with the GL.iNet MT-6000. The stock firmware is a gui around a modern OpenWRT and they don’t try to lock it down at all so flashing is easy.
- sunshine-o 2y agoI recently found out I do not need the main Wi-Fi anymore at home so I do not really need my main OpenWrt physical router anymore (I still need a the secondary AP running OpenWrt for IoT devices). So I am going to now run my OpenWrt router as a VM on one of my home server just to get rid of some cables and clutter. I really love OpenWrt but was tempted to try something new like pfSense or OPNsense, mainly because I now find PF way less confusing. I also saw some people just love to build routers with OpenBSD and there are some great guides out there [0] Any opinion or alternative I should consider? - [0] https://openbsdrouterguide.net/ https://openbsdrouterguide.net/
- gtirloni 2y agoI'm a SRE and love to work with infrastructure, tweak things, etc, and have my own home lab. For years (decades?), I have gone the DIY route with networking gear and it's been painful to tell family "oh, just another 15min or maybe 4h and this will work great?" after I was updating things or messing around. This year I decided to replace all networking equipment with Ubiquiti (gateway, APs, switches). It's really expensive and it makes me feel like a sell out but I have had zero issues (it's been 6 months now). I'm really happy that OpenWrt has a stable release and others continue to make progress. I'll probably be deploying some _spare_ devices that won't break my main network, try patches, submit bugreports, etc. But I'm enjoying the peace of mind now. Not contributing much to the discussion about OpenWrt, sorry.
- timschmidt 2y agoMy experience has been the opposite. I've had OpenWRT gear running rock solid for more than a decade, and a box full of Ubiquiti gear that no longer gets updates, doesn't work with recent management software, and some that's even been resuscitated back to usefulness by flashing with OpenWRT.
- cbm-vic-20 2y agoIt's not selling out when you're running a critical production system for a small number of users (the people in your house). You made the right choice.
- eduction 2y agoI looked into Amplifi based on your comment and it looks like they haven’t updated the line since 2022 and people are speculating they may exit the home market. Did you worry about this?
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- M95D 2y agoI'm disillusioned by OpenWrt. For a few years I did pull requests adding packages, fixing stuff, improvements. Only the minimal 1-2 lines PRs were accepted and merged, while big important changes that I worked on, tested and keep updated for years were never merged. Most were simply ignored with no feedback. Instead they seem to focus on getting GPUs and Doom working... and now they even do hardware dev. And it's not even decent hardware, it's crippleware ewaste hardware.
- akaitea 2y agoBeen using OpenWRT on a Ubiquity EdgeRouter X for years and it runs great, using adblock directly on it as well, granted there are no nice statistics for adblock like on PiHole but the important thing is that it does the job. Have a separate dumb AP also running OpenWRT which needs upgrading and the next router must support OpenWRT it has practically become a required feature