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arent eggs already vegetarian
by whimsicalism 2y ago
arent eggs already vegetarian
- epistasis 2y agoThe usage of the term "vegetarian" in the US is not consistent enough to come up with a precise definition, probably due to the mixture of so many cultures bringing their variation and translations. So it's always good to clarify on particular food items in my experience. Some will consider eggs part of a vegetarian diet, others will be practically offended at the ridiculousness of the idea.
- 0xffff2 2y agoHuh? I'm American and even used to work as a professional line cook. Vegetarian has only ever meant "no meat products" to me. Vegan means "no animal products of any kind", and anything else requires a more specific phrase like "I'm vegetarian, and also I don't eat eggs", or "I can't eat any dairy products at all", or whatever.
- notTooFarGone 2y agoYeah poeple are overcomplicating the shit out of that. The times I have to explain people "It's just not meat" is through the roof.
- zie 2y agoSome vegetarians make exceptions for eggs, but I wouldn't call it "vegetarian" personally. You do you though. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vegetarianism https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vegetarianism
- vips7L 2y agoTechnically since they're not meat and aren't born, but they're not vegan or ethical. The treatment of hens is inhumane.
- whimsicalism 2y agoi'm vegan, just describing the state of modern american understandings of words
- vips7L 2y agoSorry I didn’t mean to come off as “hot”.
- whimsicalism 2y agoon reflection you didn't, another reply did
- dastbe 2y agoEggs are definitely a grey area for vegetarians, to the point where vegetarians will describe ovo-lacto-vegetarians where they are ok with eggs (and animal milk) whereas others aren't.
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- sonar_un 2y agoI've been vegan for over 15 years, but even when I was vegetarian, I never really considered eggs to be vegetarian. Though some people do.
- mullingitover 2y agoYes. Vegetarians don’t eat meat (including fish, although some religious sects have a marketing deal with fishermen to count fish as a vegetable for some reason), do eat animal products. Vegans don’t eat meat and also don’t eat animal products.
- dml2135 2y agoI always found this a funny etymological thing. Going just by the words themselves, if you asked me to guess which was which, I'd say they should be reversed -- "vegetarian" seems to clearly imply "eats a diet made up of vegetables" whereas "vegan" is more ambiguous and seems to fit "mostly eats vegetables but also will eat some non-meat animal products". But what I'm guessing happened is that the less-strict diet came first (at least in the modern era), so got the "vegetarian" moniker, and then we just needed another work for the strict no-animal-products diet so had to come up with "vegan".
- mullingitover 2y agoThe term goes back to the Vegetarian Society in England, and was also popularized by Seventh Day Adventists in the US. The SDA church is fairly large at about 22 million members, and they’ve always promoted vegetarianism, meaning meat free diet with animal products.
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- OJFord 2y agoIt's not a strictly defined term, in the UK people generally mean lacto-ovo-vegetarian by it (they will eat eggs and milk) but many combinations are possible and what's most common varies geographically - in India for example it would generate taken to mean lacto-vegetarian (milk, no eggs). Wikipedia has a nice table: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vegetarianism#Varieties https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vegetarianism#Varieties