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Anyone who had hope that Trump would avert the catastrophe was clearly ignorant of the facts of his subservience to the greater Israel plan. Meanwhile, while P

Anyone who had hope that Trump would avert the catastrophe was clearly ignorant of the facts of his subservience to the greater Israel plan. Meanwhile, while Palestinians are eating cats, we are free to refer to Monty Python all we like. Just don't mention the war.

Ste_Tokyo 2y ago
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- immibis 2y ago
  I'm flagging this because it's two paragraphs of propaganda opposite to base reality.
  - Ste_Tokyo 2y ago
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    - edanm 2y ago
      This is not a response worthy of HN. Calling the parent poster names, saying they support "baby murderers" with no possible justification - please keep this kind of comment off this site.
      - Ste_Tokyo 2y ago
        The Palestinians are in the situation they are in because of their own choices, not because of some Greater Israel plan which the poster seems to think is the reason. The German people and the Japanese people suffered similar privations in WW2 - shouldn’t have attacked Poland and Pearl Harbor then. Choices have consequences. Do you see this rather simple point now?
        edanm 2y ago
        > Do you see this rather simple point now? There's no need to talk to me in this way, either. Whether or not you're right, you're not doing your arguments any favor by being mean to other commenters with no reason.
        Ste_Tokyo 2y ago
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        edanm 2y ago
        > Now do you see, my darling? Once again, your argument aside, your way of speaking is the issue here. If you think you're winning anyone to your arguments in this way, you're wrong. > And point two is that if you see these facts and decide that you support the Gazans, then you are not holding a different view, you are guilty of being an apologist to Ghengis Khan-level savagery and therefore are deserving of condemnation. No, your point is wrong. You switched between talking about Hamas to talking about Gazans. It is entirely consistent to be against Hamas but still support Gazans. In fact, some people claim that supporting Gazans means being against Hamas, because of Hamas's brutal dictatorship over the Gazans.
        Ste_Tokyo 2y ago
        The Gazans voted for Hamas as their leaders knowing their genocidal policy towards Jews. The October 7 attack was popular among Palestinians including Gazans at first. Less so now. It is fair then to say that the Gazans bear some responsibility for the attack. Also, the IDF are targeting Hamas, not the Gazans as a whole. Additional civilian deaths are caused by the cowardly tactics of Hamas to use human shields. The Gazans knew that Hamas used these tactics when they voted for them. Again, you reap what you sow.
        immibis 2y ago
        So you are pushing the idea that Palestine deserves to be genocided because it voted for people who want to genocide Israelis. Does Israel deserve to be genocided because it voted for people who want to genocide Palestinians, or does it only go one way around? Why do people pretend the start of history was October 7, 2023?
- red019 2y ago
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    - immibis 2y ago
      You are clearly saying it's acceptable for Israel to respond to the pogrom on their citizens. Can you clarify whether or not it's also acceptable for Palestine to respond to the pogrom on their citizens? Is this a privilege that every country gets, or just Israel? And does the amount of acceptable response scale in proportion to the amount of citizens killed in the pogrom?
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  - edanm 2y ago
    Even if you believe that Israelis are mass murderers, and even if you are willing to ignore that plenty of other groups have killed far more people, there's zero justification for making this statement about Jews and not Israelis. This comment is simply antisemitism.
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  - dang 2y ago
    We've banned this account. If you keep creating accounts to break HN's rules with, it will get your main account(s) banned as well, so please stop doing this.

Ste_Tokyo 2y ago

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immibis 2y ago
I'm flagging this because it's two paragraphs of propaganda opposite to base reality.
- Ste_Tokyo 2y ago
  [flagged]
  - edanm 2y ago
    This is not a response worthy of HN. Calling the parent poster names, saying they support "baby murderers" with no possible justification - please keep this kind of comment off this site.
    - Ste_Tokyo 2y ago
      The Palestinians are in the situation they are in because of their own choices, not because of some Greater Israel plan which the poster seems to think is the reason. The German people and the Japanese people suffered similar privations in WW2 - shouldn’t have attacked Poland and Pearl Harbor then. Choices have consequences. Do you see this rather simple point now?
      - edanm 2y ago
        > Do you see this rather simple point now? There's no need to talk to me in this way, either. Whether or not you're right, you're not doing your arguments any favor by being mean to other commenters with no reason.
        Ste_Tokyo 2y ago
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        edanm 2y ago
        > Now do you see, my darling? Once again, your argument aside, your way of speaking is the issue here. If you think you're winning anyone to your arguments in this way, you're wrong. > And point two is that if you see these facts and decide that you support the Gazans, then you are not holding a different view, you are guilty of being an apologist to Ghengis Khan-level savagery and therefore are deserving of condemnation. No, your point is wrong. You switched between talking about Hamas to talking about Gazans. It is entirely consistent to be against Hamas but still support Gazans. In fact, some people claim that supporting Gazans means being against Hamas, because of Hamas's brutal dictatorship over the Gazans.
        Ste_Tokyo 2y ago
        The Gazans voted for Hamas as their leaders knowing their genocidal policy towards Jews. The October 7 attack was popular among Palestinians including Gazans at first. Less so now. It is fair then to say that the Gazans bear some responsibility for the attack. Also, the IDF are targeting Hamas, not the Gazans as a whole. Additional civilian deaths are caused by the cowardly tactics of Hamas to use human shields. The Gazans knew that Hamas used these tactics when they voted for them. Again, you reap what you sow.
        immibis 2y ago
        So you are pushing the idea that Palestine deserves to be genocided because it voted for people who want to genocide Israelis. Does Israel deserve to be genocided because it voted for people who want to genocide Palestinians, or does it only go one way around? Why do people pretend the start of history was October 7, 2023?
red019 2y ago
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- Ste_Tokyo 2y ago
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  - immibis 2y ago
    You are clearly saying it's acceptable for Israel to respond to the pogrom on their citizens. Can you clarify whether or not it's also acceptable for Palestine to respond to the pogrom on their citizens? Is this a privilege that every country gets, or just Israel? And does the amount of acceptable response scale in proportion to the amount of citizens killed in the pogrom?
    - Ste_Tokyo 2y ago
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- edanm 2y ago
  Even if you believe that Israelis are mass murderers, and even if you are willing to ignore that plenty of other groups have killed far more people, there's zero justification for making this statement about Jews and not Israelis. This comment is simply antisemitism.
  - deleted 2y ago
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- dang 2y ago
  We've banned this account. If you keep creating accounts to break HN's rules with, it will get your main account(s) banned as well, so please stop doing this.