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I'm confused. Are you saying specifically that you think the experiences described in this article are for the good of the country? Or do you think they're an e

I'm confused. Are you saying specifically that you think the experiences described in this article are for the good of the country? Or do you think they're an exaggeration/lie.

pizlonator 2y ago
I don’t think that’s what the comment said at all. You’re extrapolating too much. Explaining the pendulum swinging violently because folks didn’t feel heard is not the same thing as saying that it’s a good thing that the pendulum has swung so violently.
- Dalewyn 2y ago
  I'm a Trump voter (2016, 2020, and 2024) so I obviously find all this a good thing, just for transparency. That said, that is tangential and irrelevant to explaining how and why the pendulum swung back as hard as it did. Trump won his first term in 2016 because Americans were fed up with the Bush+Obama status quo of endless wars and waste. Drain the swamp, fuck the establishment! As the sentiment of the day went; remember Occupy Wall Street and the Tea Party? Biden winning 2020 was a sharp rebuke by the powers that be; how dare the people demand change and elect an outsider, how dare the people demand peace and effective government. Biden and Harris's 2024 campaigns likewise were based strictly and ultimately on continuing the status quo; Harris "had no policy" in large part because the "policy" was the status quo. Trump winning again in 2024 with a historic campaign is a sharp rebuke to that, he is the people's retribution for being denied and refused for so long time and time again. For voters like me and us, NASA and the like having their funding slashed and denied is merely collateral damage for a greater and long-awaited cause.
  - tmerse 2y ago
    Trump won his first term in 2016 because Americans were fed up with the Bush+Obama status quo of endless wars and wast Does this include threatening Greenland with military action or does it not count as war if there is little resistance to be expected?
    - matwood 2y ago
      Or now Gaza. I guess they don’t count trade wars. Dalewyn could have his family deported and still think Trump is doing the right thing. I gave up responding.
      - Dalewyn 2y ago
        As Trump said when an interviewer asked him about Ukraine: "I want people to stop dying." I think most Americans share that sentiment with regards to war, so no, trade wars don't count. It's objective fact that Trump did not start a single war during his first term (he only inherited wars from his predecessors), his successor Biden immediately went back to starting wars. Americans will not tolerate declarations of war or otherwise military actions on Denmark/Greenland or Panama, we voted for him in large part because he is the first President in a long time who hates wars. No. More. Wars. This is non-negotiable. Every single warmonger and the military industrial complex can go fuck themselves. However, if we can get Greenland and the Panama Canal amicably through business/diplomacy then, as an American, why not? >Dalewyn could have his family deported If we're here illegally then fuck yeah Trump is doing the right thing; he's just enforcing the law as written. I thought we were all about rule of law?
        lostdog 2y ago
        You seem to be very confused, among other things, about who started the Ukraine war and why. Gonna guess you probably think Obama started the Iraq war and probably the Civil War and WWII as well.
        pjc50 2y ago
        He doesn't care, he wants Ukraine to surrender so they can die quietly.
        agumonkey 2y ago
        > However, if we can get Greenland and the Panama Canal amicably through business/diplomacy then, as an American, why not? was there anything amicable about his recent claims about greenland ? How do you reconcile having a leader suggesting curing covid with bleach to know how to make government efficients ? Musk couldn't turn twitter back as far as we know either..
  - Sharlin 2y ago
    And no Trump supporter can actually spell out clearly what that cause is besides "own the outgroup" and a religious faith in everything getting better for the cult member despite every single piece of evidence pointing to the contrary (unless you already happen to be a billionaire, of course). And I mean religious in the literal sense: a belief that some ill-defined paradise awaits the true believers and it will be worth it in the end even though it kind of hurts that their faces are being gnawed by the leopards (but at least the outgroup’s faces are being eaten too so it’s all right).
  - throwaway_2494 2y ago
    > I'm a Trump voter (2016, 2020, and 2024) so I obviously find all this a good thing, just for transparency. Burning the system down because of hurt pride doesn't sound like a good thing to me. Your agent of retribution is now threatening my country. It's because of people like you that I now have to start thinking of what I have to do if they start massing troops in Buffalo. No wars indeed... And just so you know, invading us will never work. You are right to not want the US to enter a war. Because it has lost every war it has ever started.
    - walls 2y ago
      Oh no the consequences of your incredibly stupid decisions!
  - Animats 2y ago
    NASA is ripe for some cuts. The Senate Launch System is a waste; both Space-X and Blue Origin have cheaper big boosters. There are too many NASA centers. The Space Force can take over Canaveral. The moon base should be all robots.
    - justin66 2y ago
      It sucks that the guy currently in charge of cost cutting has a blatant conflict of interest in getting rid of the SLS. It really does need to go, but he's not the one to do it.

I'm confused. Are you saying specifically that you think the experiences described in this article are for the good of the country? Or do you think they're an exaggeration/lie.

pizlonator 2y ago

I don’t think that’s what the comment said at all. You’re extrapolating too much. Explaining the pendulum swinging violently because folks didn’t feel heard is not the same thing as saying that it’s a good thing that the pendulum has swung so violently.

Dalewyn 2y ago
I'm a Trump voter (2016, 2020, and 2024) so I obviously find all this a good thing, just for transparency. That said, that is tangential and irrelevant to explaining how and why the pendulum swung back as hard as it did. Trump won his first term in 2016 because Americans were fed up with the Bush+Obama status quo of endless wars and waste. Drain the swamp, fuck the establishment! As the sentiment of the day went; remember Occupy Wall Street and the Tea Party? Biden winning 2020 was a sharp rebuke by the powers that be; how dare the people demand change and elect an outsider, how dare the people demand peace and effective government. Biden and Harris's 2024 campaigns likewise were based strictly and ultimately on continuing the status quo; Harris "had no policy" in large part because the "policy" was the status quo. Trump winning again in 2024 with a historic campaign is a sharp rebuke to that, he is the people's retribution for being denied and refused for so long time and time again. For voters like me and us, NASA and the like having their funding slashed and denied is merely collateral damage for a greater and long-awaited cause.
- tmerse 2y ago
  Trump won his first term in 2016 because Americans were fed up with the Bush+Obama status quo of endless wars and wast Does this include threatening Greenland with military action or does it not count as war if there is little resistance to be expected?
  - matwood 2y ago
    Or now Gaza. I guess they don’t count trade wars. Dalewyn could have his family deported and still think Trump is doing the right thing. I gave up responding.
    - Dalewyn 2y ago
      As Trump said when an interviewer asked him about Ukraine: "I want people to stop dying." I think most Americans share that sentiment with regards to war, so no, trade wars don't count. It's objective fact that Trump did not start a single war during his first term (he only inherited wars from his predecessors), his successor Biden immediately went back to starting wars. Americans will not tolerate declarations of war or otherwise military actions on Denmark/Greenland or Panama, we voted for him in large part because he is the first President in a long time who hates wars. No. More. Wars. This is non-negotiable. Every single warmonger and the military industrial complex can go fuck themselves. However, if we can get Greenland and the Panama Canal amicably through business/diplomacy then, as an American, why not? >Dalewyn could have his family deported If we're here illegally then fuck yeah Trump is doing the right thing; he's just enforcing the law as written. I thought we were all about rule of law?
      - lostdog 2y ago
        You seem to be very confused, among other things, about who started the Ukraine war and why. Gonna guess you probably think Obama started the Iraq war and probably the Civil War and WWII as well.
        pjc50 2y ago
        He doesn't care, he wants Ukraine to surrender so they can die quietly.
      - agumonkey 2y ago
        > However, if we can get Greenland and the Panama Canal amicably through business/diplomacy then, as an American, why not? was there anything amicable about his recent claims about greenland ? How do you reconcile having a leader suggesting curing covid with bleach to know how to make government efficients ? Musk couldn't turn twitter back as far as we know either..
- Sharlin 2y ago
  And no Trump supporter can actually spell out clearly what that cause is besides "own the outgroup" and a religious faith in everything getting better for the cult member despite every single piece of evidence pointing to the contrary (unless you already happen to be a billionaire, of course). And I mean religious in the literal sense: a belief that some ill-defined paradise awaits the true believers and it will be worth it in the end even though it kind of hurts that their faces are being gnawed by the leopards (but at least the outgroup’s faces are being eaten too so it’s all right).
- throwaway_2494 2y ago
  > I'm a Trump voter (2016, 2020, and 2024) so I obviously find all this a good thing, just for transparency. Burning the system down because of hurt pride doesn't sound like a good thing to me. Your agent of retribution is now threatening my country. It's because of people like you that I now have to start thinking of what I have to do if they start massing troops in Buffalo. No wars indeed... And just so you know, invading us will never work. You are right to not want the US to enter a war. Because it has lost every war it has ever started.
  - walls 2y ago
    Oh no the consequences of your incredibly stupid decisions!
- Animats 2y ago
  NASA is ripe for some cuts. The Senate Launch System is a waste; both Space-X and Blue Origin have cheaper big boosters. There are too many NASA centers. The Space Force can take over Canaveral. The moon base should be all robots.
  - justin66 2y ago
    It sucks that the guy currently in charge of cost cutting has a blatant conflict of interest in getting rid of the SLS. It really does need to go, but he's not the one to do it.