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What books did "they" burn? I'm asking about the actual books.

dekhn 2y ago
it's not a good time to act like an obtuse edge lord
angoragoats 2y ago
Are you asking about the Nazis in Germany? The first major book burning was in Berlin at the Institut für Sexualwissenschaft (Institute for Sexual Research) where they burned thousands of books containing information about, among other things, LGBT people. Or are you asking about the current situation? They’re trying to burn all of it —- any research papers funded by the NSF or NIH.
- pizzafeelsright 2y ago
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  - lanstin 2y ago
    > I'm okay with the CDC being torn down. They lied and lost all trust. Unfortunately, advanced technological based civilization is not "ok" with destroying the collective and knowledge based activities of scientific research. One can't advance far if you stop science when it makes mistakes - the advantage of science is it finds and fixes the mistakes. This, and the federal funding of research, is why the collective knowledge of humanity is doubling ever decade or so.
    - greenavocado 2y ago
      The only collective and knowledge based activities of scientific research that the people have access to is sci-hub, who have done more to advance scientific understanding for humanity than most government institutions have in decades
      - lanstin 2y ago
        Except for people that live near research libraries, which is a lot of people. I use sci-hub and don't like Springer, but it's hard to see how most government [research] institutions haven't advanced our knowledge in decades. That just seems like another statement which is not so. (BTW, when you go to math conventions, at least, there are multiple open access tables in the exhibit hall, to reduce the cost of the free sharing of knowledge that is so essential).
  - angoragoats 2y ago
    > What's being funded? This is an extremely odd question. Are you not familiar with the NSF or NIH? > I'm okay with the CDC being torn down. They lied and lost all trust. You are a danger to public health. > As for grants they are paused. Those organizations didn't earn it. Did USAID also not earn the right to get funding to provide lifesaving drugs so that babies don’t contract HIV? Who decided that they didn’t “earn it”? > I also understand there's a 8 month severance for voluntary vacating. This is very generous even for a tyrant. You don’t understand correctly — the offer was for 8 months of work, from home. Then they would be separated in September. It’s also not actually clear that OPM has the legal authority to make this offer, so anyone accepting it may not actually get what they signed up for.
  - CamperBob2 2y ago
    They lied and lost all trust. Yeah, I remember when the CDC told you that horse paste cures COVID, and proposed grants to study the potential benefits of injecting bleach. Oh, wait, that wasn't the CDC, was it? That was somebody else. Do you still trust them?
    - greenavocado 2y ago
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Damogran6 2y ago
The proper response to scientific criticism is to archive what came before. This is a heavy handed attempt to remove from view science they don't agree with. This is not a 'removal of DEI from government' this is the attempted censorship they've said themselves they're doing away with. Every accusation is a confession.

it's not a good time to act like an obtuse edge lord

Are you asking about the Nazis in Germany? The first major book burning was in Berlin at the Institut für Sexualwissenschaft (Institute for Sexual Research) where they burned thousands of books containing information about, among other things, LGBT people. Or are you asking about the current situation? They’re trying to burn all of it —- any research papers funded by the NSF or NIH.

pizzafeelsright 2y ago
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- lanstin 2y ago
  > I'm okay with the CDC being torn down. They lied and lost all trust. Unfortunately, advanced technological based civilization is not "ok" with destroying the collective and knowledge based activities of scientific research. One can't advance far if you stop science when it makes mistakes - the advantage of science is it finds and fixes the mistakes. This, and the federal funding of research, is why the collective knowledge of humanity is doubling ever decade or so.
  - greenavocado 2y ago
    The only collective and knowledge based activities of scientific research that the people have access to is sci-hub, who have done more to advance scientific understanding for humanity than most government institutions have in decades
    - lanstin 2y ago
      Except for people that live near research libraries, which is a lot of people. I use sci-hub and don't like Springer, but it's hard to see how most government [research] institutions haven't advanced our knowledge in decades. That just seems like another statement which is not so. (BTW, when you go to math conventions, at least, there are multiple open access tables in the exhibit hall, to reduce the cost of the free sharing of knowledge that is so essential).
- angoragoats 2y ago
  > What's being funded? This is an extremely odd question. Are you not familiar with the NSF or NIH? > I'm okay with the CDC being torn down. They lied and lost all trust. You are a danger to public health. > As for grants they are paused. Those organizations didn't earn it. Did USAID also not earn the right to get funding to provide lifesaving drugs so that babies don’t contract HIV? Who decided that they didn’t “earn it”? > I also understand there's a 8 month severance for voluntary vacating. This is very generous even for a tyrant. You don’t understand correctly — the offer was for 8 months of work, from home. Then they would be separated in September. It’s also not actually clear that OPM has the legal authority to make this offer, so anyone accepting it may not actually get what they signed up for.
- CamperBob2 2y ago
  They lied and lost all trust. Yeah, I remember when the CDC told you that horse paste cures COVID, and proposed grants to study the potential benefits of injecting bleach. Oh, wait, that wasn't the CDC, was it? That was somebody else. Do you still trust them?
  - greenavocado 2y ago
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Damogran6 2y ago

The proper response to scientific criticism is to archive what came before. This is a heavy handed attempt to remove from view science they don't agree with. This is not a 'removal of DEI from government' this is the attempted censorship they've said themselves they're doing away with. Every accusation is a confession.