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IMO this is only going to be a thing for as long as: 0. it takes the reigning POTUS to realize its causing problems that are impacting wealthy elites (24 hour

IMO this is only going to be a thing for as long as: 0. it takes the reigning POTUS to realize its causing problems that are impacting wealthy elites (24 hours in the case of tariffs) 1. 4 years. If i were product owner/manager of any of these teams id recommend we fork the codebase for 4 years and call it done. keep the forked version on standby with backports of major content updated in case you wind up with this sort of situation again, but dont start ripping all this stuff out of prod. Or if on a longer timeline, build culture war into the release as a feature flag (culture=1, culture=0, etc..)

nonchalantsui 2y ago
Culture war as a feature flag is so good. I’m definitely reusing that.
kernal 2y ago
2. 12+ years.
netsharc 2y ago
Four years? Oh, honey... Where do I put money on the MAGA-Nazis pulling a Putin on future elections? I suppose Putin isn't the first one to do rigged elections, somehow he's the only one currently in my mind. Sadly Wikipedia doesn't have an article entitled "List of Rigged Elections"...
- bqmjjx0kac 2y ago
  I really do expect them to try. I am slightly hopeful that this clown show of an administration is too incompetent to pull it off. The judicial branch appears to be bought and paid for, so maybe my optimism is unfounded.
  - pc86 2y ago
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    - netsharc 2y ago
      Grandfather comment didn't mention anything being "complete"... But ooh yeah, 3 out of 9 are clean, so there's a chance? Let's just ignore the 6 incompetent apparatchiks and "simple majority rule" shall we? Don't be so obtuse, we know you're not that stupid.
      - pc86 2y ago
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        netsharc 2y ago
        And this is you addressing my claims of you being obtuse... how? Sure, typical whatever-you-are tactic of changing the topic when being attacked. Plus some "Won't somebody think of the site's rules?!".
        pc86 2y ago
        I didn't address that claim because it's a pointless ad hominem. Tell me what I could respond with that would have you say "oh actually you're right, I was wrong, my apologies" even if just internally.
        Volundr 2y ago
        > My point was more that if "liberal" == "clean" and "conservative" == "incompetent apparatchiks" then you're (the royal you) a shill If I consider all the ones who voted for Presidential immunity corrupt does that make me a shill? It's a decision with no constitutional basis (the constitution grants no presidential immunity, but does grant other immunities, implying if it was intended it'd be in there) and ahistorical (we can find plenty of examples of presidents assuming they or their predecessor could be prosecuted). That still leaves us in the same place a Supreme Court where the majority is beholden to the current President, not the constitution.
        pc86 2y ago
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- miltonlost 2y ago
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lenerdenator 2y ago
> 1. 4 years. That's optimistic. We put a business executive in charge of the federal government. There's no such thing as term limits or checks-and-balances in the mind of a business executive, just taking a good horse out of the race and inefficiencies. On the first count, if Trump's still in relatively good health, I could absolutely see him making that case for scrapping the term limit on the Presidency.
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- hypeatei 2y ago
  > I could absolutely see him making that case for scrapping the term limit They're already working on a constitutional amendment to allow a third term[0] and right wing lawyers have suggested that there are legal strategies Trump could try employing to stay in power. That along with Trump himself "jokingly" saying that we won't need to vote again if he's elected does not inspire confidence. 0: https://ogles.house.gov/media/press-releases/rep-ogles-proposes-amending-22nd-amendment-allow-trump-serve-third-term https://ogles.house.gov/media/press-releases/rep-ogles-propo...
  - mplanchard 2y ago
    Luckily a constitutional amendment has 0% chance of being ratified by enough states, even if they're somehow able to get a supermajority in both houses of Congress. Any legislation in that direction is just a distraction. It's the other strategies we need to watch more carefully.
    - ryandrake 2y ago
      Yea, he doesn't need a constitutional amendment. He controls all three branches of government, so who is going to stop him?
      - chii 2y ago
        That's why the second amendment exists.
4ndrewl 2y ago
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- femiagbabiaka 2y ago
  The histrionics don't help: If this is the case, incepting everyone with the idea in advance subconsciously lowers resistance right now, when nothing can be done, because this is all hypothetical. And if it isn't the case, you can't be taken seriously. Simply respond to the moment, in the moment. That is already enough. Plus remember: he doesn't need to be a dictator, because he won a democratic election. If anything, liberals should be focusing on how to avoid JD Vance simply winning in 2028.
  - panic 2y ago
    It's not "histrionics"; they tried it last time and they'll try it again. This time they seem more organized, so I wouldn't be surprised if they succeed. If you care about the US remaining a functioning democracy, you should work in whatever way you can toward removing the current administration from power.
    - justonenote 2y ago
      The FBI and 51 Intelligence officials signed a document saying Hunter Biden's laptop was Russian disinformation 2-3 weeks before the last election, when in fact it was actually Hunter Biden's laptop. Is this a true statement or not?
      - Salgat 2y ago
        The FBI never made such a statement, and the 51 *former* intelligence officers made a statement that, in their opinion, the laptop contained hallmarks of Russian disinformation, and all of this occurred 2 weeks before the 2020 election for maximum political effect.
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mschuster91 2y ago
> it takes the reigning POTUS to realize its causing problems that are impacting wealthy elites (24 hours in the case of tariffs) He didn't "realize" anything. All of the show we're seeing was planned posturing and "deal-making by leverage". We shouldn't be accepting even talking about the US annexing Greenland FFS - but here we are, with credible proposals for installing new US military presence on Greenland being discussed. That's alarming. > 4 years. Bold of you to assume there will be elections in four years, that these elections will be anywhere close to fair, or that the people who voted for the 47th won't just vote for him (or his successor, assuming the 47th goes six-feet-under) again.
- ty6853 2y ago
  There has been no revolutionary change in governance since FDR. The federal apparatus has been tightening the screws with ever vaster and more expensive compendium of regulations and laws. End result, about the largest incarcerated population of the world. The parties in power failed to unwind any of this so instead they got an unhinged strongman who promised to do it with a sledgehammer. Trump is a symptom rather than a cause.
  - pjc50 2y ago
    Last I heard El Salvador was offering to help expand the prison population.
  - mschuster91 2y ago
    > The parties in power failed to unwind any of this so instead they got an unhinged strongman who promised to do it with a sledgehammer. ... and will do just the opposite of what he promised and they were hoping for. Recent news about how scientific grants are being retroactively reviewed for any signs of "woke" language - if that isn't a vast expansion of governmental authoritarian powers, I seriously don't know what is.
- rpmisms 2y ago
  > We shouldn't be accepting even talking about the US annexing Greenland FFS Genuine question: why? Expansionism may be out of style, but I don't see how it's inherently evil.

nonchalantsui 2y ago

Culture war as a feature flag is so good. I’m definitely reusing that.

kernal 2y ago

2. 12+ years.

netsharc 2y ago

Four years? Oh, honey... Where do I put money on the MAGA-Nazis pulling a Putin on future elections? I suppose Putin isn't the first one to do rigged elections, somehow he's the only one currently in my mind. Sadly Wikipedia doesn't have an article entitled "List of Rigged Elections"...

bqmjjx0kac 2y ago
I really do expect them to try. I am slightly hopeful that this clown show of an administration is too incompetent to pull it off. The judicial branch appears to be bought and paid for, so maybe my optimism is unfounded.
- pc86 2y ago
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  - netsharc 2y ago
    Grandfather comment didn't mention anything being "complete"... But ooh yeah, 3 out of 9 are clean, so there's a chance? Let's just ignore the 6 incompetent apparatchiks and "simple majority rule" shall we? Don't be so obtuse, we know you're not that stupid.
    - pc86 2y ago
      [flagged]
      - netsharc 2y ago
        And this is you addressing my claims of you being obtuse... how? Sure, typical whatever-you-are tactic of changing the topic when being attacked. Plus some "Won't somebody think of the site's rules?!".
        pc86 2y ago
        I didn't address that claim because it's a pointless ad hominem. Tell me what I could respond with that would have you say "oh actually you're right, I was wrong, my apologies" even if just internally.
      - Volundr 2y ago
        > My point was more that if "liberal" == "clean" and "conservative" == "incompetent apparatchiks" then you're (the royal you) a shill If I consider all the ones who voted for Presidential immunity corrupt does that make me a shill? It's a decision with no constitutional basis (the constitution grants no presidential immunity, but does grant other immunities, implying if it was intended it'd be in there) and ahistorical (we can find plenty of examples of presidents assuming they or their predecessor could be prosecuted). That still leaves us in the same place a Supreme Court where the majority is beholden to the current President, not the constitution.
        pc86 2y ago

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miltonlost 2y ago
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lenerdenator 2y ago

> 1. 4 years. That's optimistic. We put a business executive in charge of the federal government. There's no such thing as term limits or checks-and-balances in the mind of a business executive, just taking a good horse out of the race and inefficiencies. On the first count, if Trump's still in relatively good health, I could absolutely see him making that case for scrapping the term limit on the Presidency.

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hypeatei 2y ago
> I could absolutely see him making that case for scrapping the term limit They're already working on a constitutional amendment to allow a third term[0] and right wing lawyers have suggested that there are legal strategies Trump could try employing to stay in power. That along with Trump himself "jokingly" saying that we won't need to vote again if he's elected does not inspire confidence. 0: https://ogles.house.gov/media/press-releases/rep-ogles-proposes-amending-22nd-amendment-allow-trump-serve-third-term https://ogles.house.gov/media/press-releases/rep-ogles-propo...
- mplanchard 2y ago
  Luckily a constitutional amendment has 0% chance of being ratified by enough states, even if they're somehow able to get a supermajority in both houses of Congress. Any legislation in that direction is just a distraction. It's the other strategies we need to watch more carefully.
  - ryandrake 2y ago
    Yea, he doesn't need a constitutional amendment. He controls all three branches of government, so who is going to stop him?
    - chii 2y ago
      That's why the second amendment exists.

4ndrewl 2y ago

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femiagbabiaka 2y ago
The histrionics don't help: If this is the case, incepting everyone with the idea in advance subconsciously lowers resistance right now, when nothing can be done, because this is all hypothetical. And if it isn't the case, you can't be taken seriously. Simply respond to the moment, in the moment. That is already enough. Plus remember: he doesn't need to be a dictator, because he won a democratic election. If anything, liberals should be focusing on how to avoid JD Vance simply winning in 2028.
- panic 2y ago
  It's not "histrionics"; they tried it last time and they'll try it again. This time they seem more organized, so I wouldn't be surprised if they succeed. If you care about the US remaining a functioning democracy, you should work in whatever way you can toward removing the current administration from power.
  - justonenote 2y ago
    The FBI and 51 Intelligence officials signed a document saying Hunter Biden's laptop was Russian disinformation 2-3 weeks before the last election, when in fact it was actually Hunter Biden's laptop. Is this a true statement or not?
    - Salgat 2y ago
      The FBI never made such a statement, and the 51 *former* intelligence officers made a statement that, in their opinion, the laptop contained hallmarks of Russian disinformation, and all of this occurred 2 weeks before the 2020 election for maximum political effect.
      - deleted 2y ago
        [deleted]

mschuster91 2y ago

> it takes the reigning POTUS to realize its causing problems that are impacting wealthy elites (24 hours in the case of tariffs) He didn't "realize" anything. All of the show we're seeing was planned posturing and "deal-making by leverage". We shouldn't be accepting even talking about the US annexing Greenland FFS - but here we are, with credible proposals for installing new US military presence on Greenland being discussed. That's alarming. > 4 years. Bold of you to assume there will be elections in four years, that these elections will be anywhere close to fair, or that the people who voted for the 47th won't just vote for him (or his successor, assuming the 47th goes six-feet-under) again.

ty6853 2y ago
There has been no revolutionary change in governance since FDR. The federal apparatus has been tightening the screws with ever vaster and more expensive compendium of regulations and laws. End result, about the largest incarcerated population of the world. The parties in power failed to unwind any of this so instead they got an unhinged strongman who promised to do it with a sledgehammer. Trump is a symptom rather than a cause.
- pjc50 2y ago
  Last I heard El Salvador was offering to help expand the prison population.
- mschuster91 2y ago
  > The parties in power failed to unwind any of this so instead they got an unhinged strongman who promised to do it with a sledgehammer. ... and will do just the opposite of what he promised and they were hoping for. Recent news about how scientific grants are being retroactively reviewed for any signs of "woke" language - if that isn't a vast expansion of governmental authoritarian powers, I seriously don't know what is.
rpmisms 2y ago
> We shouldn't be accepting even talking about the US annexing Greenland FFS Genuine question: why? Expansionism may be out of style, but I don't see how it's inherently evil.