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I'm surprised that anyone is upgrading older hardware to Windows 11 in the first place. It's shocking how many performance issues I've come across. Explorer b

I'm surprised that anyone is upgrading older hardware to Windows 11 in the first place. It's shocking how many performance issues I've come across. Explorer bogs regularly. I can't game and stream a video anymore due to some rendering change that was made in Win 11 (I forget the details).

frognumber 2y ago
Older hardware isn't always slower hardware. Intel 6950X is unsupported. That's 10 cores at 3.5GHz. It's about 10x faster multicore and 2x faster single-core than a modern, supported Intel Celeron N4500. Moore-style scaling where chips are faster (rather than just denser) ran out a while back. Expensive computers from a decade back beat cheap computers of today. A modern 20-core PC is perhaps 1/10th the CPU cost as compared to when the 6950x came out, but not a lot faster. If that 6950x was maxed out to 128GB RAM and set up with a decent GPU, it can be a very good system. That's among the oldest processors not supported, but many computers with somewhat newer CPUs don't work either due to motherboard / BIOS issues.
- caspper69 2y ago
  In the same boat with one of my user's 6950x. Ridiculously fast machine over its lifetime, and still doesn't trip on much. Unreal that a 64GB machine with plenty of love to go around is getting the shaft. I could muck about with a TPM module because the mobo has a header, and there are supported chips on the market, but the 8th gen requirement is a dealbreaker. I'm trying to get this user to just go Mac, but it's like pulling teeth. If they insist on a new machine, then maybe I'll make it my BSD box.
yoyohello13 2y ago
File explorer take 2 seconds to load for me, FILE EXPLORER! It should be milliseconds. Microsoft engineers are asleep at the wheel. Edit: This is on a brand-new workstation BTW
- blibble 2y ago
  just buy a new PC one that just happens to come with another windows license...
  - yoyohello13 2y ago
    This is a brand-new workstation provided by my job. Apparently, it's a known issue because it does some async network calls that block startup.
- caspper69 2y ago
  Yes, it is slower (but it has gotten better), but now that I have a tabbed explorer, it's really hard to go back to the single-window per dir version. I'm sure there's a performant 3rd party extension that would fit the bill, but I'm too lazy atm.
- throwfgtpwd234 2y ago
  The reason Windows gets slower and slower is to continue selling PCs. It never gets faster.
robotnikman 2y ago
IIRC it's because when Windows 11 detects a game running, it basically deprioritizes other process (like web browsers running streams or videos) which causes the lag you see

frognumber 2y ago

Older hardware isn't always slower hardware. Intel 6950X is unsupported. That's 10 cores at 3.5GHz. It's about 10x faster multicore and 2x faster single-core than a modern, supported Intel Celeron N4500. Moore-style scaling where chips are faster (rather than just denser) ran out a while back. Expensive computers from a decade back beat cheap computers of today. A modern 20-core PC is perhaps 1/10th the CPU cost as compared to when the 6950x came out, but not a lot faster. If that 6950x was maxed out to 128GB RAM and set up with a decent GPU, it can be a very good system. That's among the oldest processors not supported, but many computers with somewhat newer CPUs don't work either due to motherboard / BIOS issues.

caspper69 2y ago
In the same boat with one of my user's 6950x. Ridiculously fast machine over its lifetime, and still doesn't trip on much. Unreal that a 64GB machine with plenty of love to go around is getting the shaft. I could muck about with a TPM module because the mobo has a header, and there are supported chips on the market, but the 8th gen requirement is a dealbreaker. I'm trying to get this user to just go Mac, but it's like pulling teeth. If they insist on a new machine, then maybe I'll make it my BSD box.

yoyohello13 2y ago

File explorer take 2 seconds to load for me, FILE EXPLORER! It should be milliseconds. Microsoft engineers are asleep at the wheel. Edit: This is on a brand-new workstation BTW

blibble 2y ago
just buy a new PC one that just happens to come with another windows license...
- yoyohello13 2y ago
  This is a brand-new workstation provided by my job. Apparently, it's a known issue because it does some async network calls that block startup.
caspper69 2y ago
Yes, it is slower (but it has gotten better), but now that I have a tabbed explorer, it's really hard to go back to the single-window per dir version. I'm sure there's a performant 3rd party extension that would fit the bill, but I'm too lazy atm.
throwfgtpwd234 2y ago
The reason Windows gets slower and slower is to continue selling PCs. It never gets faster.

robotnikman 2y ago

IIRC it's because when Windows 11 detects a game running, it basically deprioritizes other process (like web browsers running streams or videos) which causes the lag you see