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What's wrong with "create a Whatsapp group and invite all your friends there, and if they don't care they just mute/leave"?

by kimi 2y ago

fsflover 2y ago
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_Facebook https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_Facebook
nickthegreek 2y ago
Id prefer to cut Meta's social product use in my life to a minimum.
duxup 2y ago
For me it would be ... I don't use Whatsapp and I don't know many who do. Can I send invites from Whatsapp and get responses from people who don't use it? Honestly I've never received one.
- frizlab 2y ago
  I’m in the EU, don’t use whatsapp but know a sh*tton of people around me do. It annoys me greatly and I truly hope I’ll be able to move them away little by little now that RCS is here.
  - dismalaf 2y ago
    Annoys you why? Signing up just requires a phone number... It's the least invasive of all the social network type things. Also RCS hasn't been widespread until recently, WhatsApp has been around for over a decade.
    - frizlab 2y ago
      I do not want to use multiple apps for chat, first, and I especially do not want to use anything from Meta. I know it’s E2E encrypted, but they still get to know who I’m talking to and how often, and other metadata. I don’t want that.
ggregoire 2y ago
they don't use Whatsapp in the US
parl_match 2y ago
I don't have Whatsapp, but I do have an iPhone.
ahmeneeroe-v2 2y ago
Americans don't really do whatsapp
tssva 2y ago
In the US WhatsApp is not widely used. I technically have an account but never installed the app when I moved to my iPhone. I had it installed for years but never used it on my prior Android phones.
hombre_fatal 2y ago
It’s worse than first class RSVP. Also where I live, it’s a social faux pas to mass invite people to a Whatsapp group as an event invitation for various reasons: it’s annoying, it publishes your invite list, and everyone’s first impression of your event would be a bunch of people leaving, lol. And you probably don’t want a group chat for most events unless it’s a group of friends who already knows each other. Nobody does it.
WorldMaker 2y ago
Some of the timing of this app seems coincided with something of a large exodus from Meta/Facebook's apps. WhatsApp never quite caught on in the US, but Facebook Events did. (They are both Meta/Facebook apps today. The feature sets are, somewhat similar here.) A lot of my friends have been looking for replacements for Facebook Events, so this is somewhat timely for those that like Apple apps as a replacement.
rconti 2y ago
I don't use WhatsApp, though I probably have it installed on my phone. I'm in a birthday party planning group on Signal, which is another app I hadn't used in years. It's easy to forget I have messages there because it's not on my home screen, or the notification settings are different from my normal Messages app, or I just forget to look. Each time you use a "different" app for something that's not in your habit loop, your response time gets delayed and you're less likely to notice communications. An app needs to get fairly regular use to become as useful as a primary app, even if, from a technical standpoint, there's nothing wrong with them.
- Zak 2y ago
  I would expect most people to turn on notifications for anything that's reasonably described as a messaging app with similar settings to the ones they're already in the habit of using. Certainly disabling or silencing notifications would make it less useful.
  - rconti 2y ago
    Sure. I'm describing the real-world difference between using an app you're familiar with vs adding a new one to your repertoire. You're describing the ideal state, which is not one we all live in. IOW: When I started using signal again, I didn't set aside 5 minutes to analyze the differences in notification settings between my messaging apps and consider the implications of them. I just opened the app and typed a message.
scarface_74 2y ago
WhatsApp is not that popular in the US - especially for adults
realusername 2y ago
I suspect this new Apple Invite is going to be like iMessage, popular in the US and basically unused anywhere else. It seems like Apple has some difficulty to adapt to some international audience.
jaza 2y ago
WhatsApp actually (quietly) launched their own simple event RSVP feature last year: https://faq.whatsapp.com/3313983622238973/ https://faq.whatsapp.com/3313983622238973/

What's wrong with "create a Whatsapp group and invite all your friends there, and if they don't care they just mute/leave"?

by kimi 2y ago

What's wrong with "create a Whatsapp group and invite all your friends there, and if they don't care they just mute/leave"?

fsflover 2y ago

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_Facebook https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_Facebook

nickthegreek 2y ago

Id prefer to cut Meta's social product use in my life to a minimum.

duxup 2y ago

For me it would be ... I don't use Whatsapp and I don't know many who do. Can I send invites from Whatsapp and get responses from people who don't use it? Honestly I've never received one.

frizlab 2y ago
I’m in the EU, don’t use whatsapp but know a sh*tton of people around me do. It annoys me greatly and I truly hope I’ll be able to move them away little by little now that RCS is here.
- dismalaf 2y ago
  Annoys you why? Signing up just requires a phone number... It's the least invasive of all the social network type things. Also RCS hasn't been widespread until recently, WhatsApp has been around for over a decade.
  - frizlab 2y ago
    I do not want to use multiple apps for chat, first, and I especially do not want to use anything from Meta. I know it’s E2E encrypted, but they still get to know who I’m talking to and how often, and other metadata. I don’t want that.

ggregoire 2y ago

they don't use Whatsapp in the US

parl_match 2y ago

I don't have Whatsapp, but I do have an iPhone.

ahmeneeroe-v2 2y ago

Americans don't really do whatsapp

tssva 2y ago

In the US WhatsApp is not widely used. I technically have an account but never installed the app when I moved to my iPhone. I had it installed for years but never used it on my prior Android phones.

hombre_fatal 2y ago

It’s worse than first class RSVP. Also where I live, it’s a social faux pas to mass invite people to a Whatsapp group as an event invitation for various reasons: it’s annoying, it publishes your invite list, and everyone’s first impression of your event would be a bunch of people leaving, lol. And you probably don’t want a group chat for most events unless it’s a group of friends who already knows each other. Nobody does it.

WorldMaker 2y ago

Some of the timing of this app seems coincided with something of a large exodus from Meta/Facebook's apps. WhatsApp never quite caught on in the US, but Facebook Events did. (They are both Meta/Facebook apps today. The feature sets are, somewhat similar here.) A lot of my friends have been looking for replacements for Facebook Events, so this is somewhat timely for those that like Apple apps as a replacement.

rconti 2y ago

I don't use WhatsApp, though I probably have it installed on my phone. I'm in a birthday party planning group on Signal, which is another app I hadn't used in years. It's easy to forget I have messages there because it's not on my home screen, or the notification settings are different from my normal Messages app, or I just forget to look. Each time you use a "different" app for something that's not in your habit loop, your response time gets delayed and you're less likely to notice communications. An app needs to get fairly regular use to become as useful as a primary app, even if, from a technical standpoint, there's nothing wrong with them.

Zak 2y ago
I would expect most people to turn on notifications for anything that's reasonably described as a messaging app with similar settings to the ones they're already in the habit of using. Certainly disabling or silencing notifications would make it less useful.
- rconti 2y ago
  Sure. I'm describing the real-world difference between using an app you're familiar with vs adding a new one to your repertoire. You're describing the ideal state, which is not one we all live in. IOW: When I started using signal again, I didn't set aside 5 minutes to analyze the differences in notification settings between my messaging apps and consider the implications of them. I just opened the app and typed a message.

scarface_74 2y ago

WhatsApp is not that popular in the US - especially for adults

realusername 2y ago

I suspect this new Apple Invite is going to be like iMessage, popular in the US and basically unused anywhere else. It seems like Apple has some difficulty to adapt to some international audience.

jaza 2y ago

WhatsApp actually (quietly) launched their own simple event RSVP feature last year: https://faq.whatsapp.com/3313983622238973/ https://faq.whatsapp.com/3313983622238973/