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List of words includes: female, females, and women. Does not include words like: male, males,and men. Party of free speech that wants to protect women accordin
by 9283409232 2y ago
List of words includes: female, females, and women. Does not include words like: male, males,and men.
Party of free speech that wants to protect women according to their supporters.
- sincerecook 2y ago[flagged]
- drawkward 2y ago[flagged]
- sincerecook 2y agoThat's literally what the quote says: "From a program officer at the National Science Foundation, a list of keywords that can cause a grant to be pulled". And then it goes on to quote a long list of words that would be characteristic of woke social science "research".
- drawkward 2y ago[flagged]
- sincerecook 2y agoYou're not being very charitable, have you considered that you may be letting your biases have an undue influence on your judgement here?
- 9283409232 2y agoI would flip this back on you. They gave a very good example of these rules being used for censorship with DeSantis prosecuting scientist for reporting numbers. Selective enforcement is a known thing so is your affection for the people in charge stopping you from seeing the obvious problem here?
- sincerecook 2y agoI support the purported intent of this policy, not the misuse of it. But that's something that has to be challenged when it happens, and it hasn't happened yet. Otherwise you wouldn't be able to make any policy since it could always potentially be misused. For the record I expect there will be some misuse of it, but broadly I also expect it to curtail the fake woke "science" that was itself a kind of misuse of the system.
- drawkward 2y ago...can you point to some of this 'fake "woke" science'?
- sincerecook 2y agoHere's a study that looked at precisely the kind of thing this policy will address: https://www.cspicenter.com/p/increasing-politicization-and-homogeneity-in-scientific-funding-an-analysis-of-nsf-grants-1990-2020 https://www.cspicenter.com/p/increasing-politicization-and-h... To be clear, I would be in support of this policy even if there was no evidence because it sets a tone that I think is positive.
- 9283409232 2y agoThe tone it sets is that "we don't care about studying anything relating to minorities or people who weren't born with a silver spoon" which I wouldn't call a positive tone.
- sincerecook 2y ago[flagged]
- 9283409232 2y agoThe list very clearly spells it out and it will go that far if it hasn't already.
- drawkward 2y agoI was being charitable by asking whether you are gullible or a parrot. Gullible is the charitable interpretation. This whole action has been done on a pretext of lies: getting politics out of science, when it fact is is putting politics into science.
- sincerecook 2y agoThe politics was already in the science. So in the same spirit of being charitable that you afforded me, are you naive or foolish?
- 9283409232 2y agoPolitics and science are inseparable. There is no such thing as no politics in science.
- freejazz 2y agoBut just the science relating to "women", not the science relating to "men?"
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- footy 2y ago[flagged]
- dang 2y agoPlease don't cross into personal attack, regardless of how wrong another comment is or you feel it is. If you wouldn't mind reviewing https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and taking the intended spirit of the site more to heart, we'd be grateful.
- drawkward 2y ago[flagged]
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