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It’s fascinating to watch, from a distance. If I was a US resident, or worse: US citizen, I’d be terrified.

by ornornor 2y ago

mrkeen 2y ago
Your politicians are watching from a distance too, and taking note of what works.
- deleted 2y ago
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- Aeolun 2y ago
  We have a functioning political system, and not nearly as much power concentrated into the hands of a single person.
  - pseudalopex 2y ago
    For now.
  - mrkeen 2y ago
    Three branches of government, two houses, mix of federal and state powers, checks and balances, an impeachment system, all that stuff?
    - Aeolun 2y ago
      I think key is not having an executive branch that consists of a single person and/or party.
    - Hikikomori 2y ago
      Our elected officials don't have any direct power over government agencies (ministerstyre), they create laws that the agencies need to follow. Then we have independent bodies that can investigate and remove bureaucrats that don't follow the law. Now are there any cracks in this system? Probably. But we dont have a president with unlimited power than can only be checked by congress at this point.
- senectus1 2y ago
  yes, I've noticed a huge uptick in the right wing party using almost exactly the same language and bullshit moves.
- easyThrowaway 2y ago
  Eh, they've already seen that with the balkans and eastern bloc countries in the 80-90s. You're gonna get a bunch of Orbàn-like small time dictators on every state that once on a while have to bow to the requests of a central-government more interested in its own political intrigues than governing anything. US Doomers are expecting something similar to the Civil War movie in the next few years, the reality will be more similar to "The Lives Of Others".
bigiain 2y ago
Fiveeyes resident here, and not quite "terrified", but at least "deeply concerned". "The rest of the world" will not carry on unscathed if the worse end of the range of possible outcomes for the US happen. (I'm deeply curious about how fiveeyes intelligence operations with Canada are going right now.)
iancmceachern 2y ago
We are
efitz 2y ago
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- lubujackson 2y ago
  ...except for that funny little bill making it illegal to vote against Trump's whims: https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/trump-tennessee-voting-felony/ https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/trump-tennessee-voting-fel... This is a direct escalation and weaponization against "people whose only crime was to disagree with the party in power," is it not? Or have you been so "abused" by the pronoun mafia you can no longer see straight?
  - efitz 2y ago
    What does a mixed-truth Snopes article about a dumb law proposed in Tennessee have to do with anything? The law sounds dumb and I would be wary of anyone proposing or voting for such a law, but I’m not a citizen of Tennessee so ???
- efitz 2y ago
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  - lmeyerov 2y ago
    It's a terrible opinion and free speech means people can call out harmful beliefs and behavior. Society is all about establishing social norms, so it's almost an obligation. You are free to be wrong and ostracized.
    - efitz 2y ago
      What exactly is terrible about it other than that you disagree?
dinkumthinkum 2y ago
It's worse to be a US citizen? Then why are so many people coming in the US and why are so many people upset about removing the ones that come here illegally? It seems like people should be happy the federal government is giving them free rides away from here if it is so bad ...

It’s fascinating to watch, from a distance. If I was a US resident, or worse: US citizen, I’d be terrified.

mrkeen 2y ago

Your politicians are watching from a distance too, and taking note of what works.

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Aeolun 2y ago
We have a functioning political system, and not nearly as much power concentrated into the hands of a single person.
- pseudalopex 2y ago
  For now.
- mrkeen 2y ago
  Three branches of government, two houses, mix of federal and state powers, checks and balances, an impeachment system, all that stuff?
  - Aeolun 2y ago
    I think key is not having an executive branch that consists of a single person and/or party.
  - Hikikomori 2y ago
    Our elected officials don't have any direct power over government agencies (ministerstyre), they create laws that the agencies need to follow. Then we have independent bodies that can investigate and remove bureaucrats that don't follow the law. Now are there any cracks in this system? Probably. But we dont have a president with unlimited power than can only be checked by congress at this point.
senectus1 2y ago
yes, I've noticed a huge uptick in the right wing party using almost exactly the same language and bullshit moves.
easyThrowaway 2y ago
Eh, they've already seen that with the balkans and eastern bloc countries in the 80-90s. You're gonna get a bunch of Orbàn-like small time dictators on every state that once on a while have to bow to the requests of a central-government more interested in its own political intrigues than governing anything. US Doomers are expecting something similar to the Civil War movie in the next few years, the reality will be more similar to "The Lives Of Others".

bigiain 2y ago

Fiveeyes resident here, and not quite "terrified", but at least "deeply concerned". "The rest of the world" will not carry on unscathed if the worse end of the range of possible outcomes for the US happen. (I'm deeply curious about how fiveeyes intelligence operations with Canada are going right now.)

iancmceachern 2y ago

We are

efitz 2y ago

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lubujackson 2y ago
...except for that funny little bill making it illegal to vote against Trump's whims: https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/trump-tennessee-voting-felony/ https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/trump-tennessee-voting-fel... This is a direct escalation and weaponization against "people whose only crime was to disagree with the party in power," is it not? Or have you been so "abused" by the pronoun mafia you can no longer see straight?
- efitz 2y ago
  What does a mixed-truth Snopes article about a dumb law proposed in Tennessee have to do with anything? The law sounds dumb and I would be wary of anyone proposing or voting for such a law, but I’m not a citizen of Tennessee so ???
efitz 2y ago
[flagged]
- deleted 2y ago
  [deleted]
- deleted 2y ago
  [deleted]
- lmeyerov 2y ago
  It's a terrible opinion and free speech means people can call out harmful beliefs and behavior. Society is all about establishing social norms, so it's almost an obligation. You are free to be wrong and ostracized.
  - efitz 2y ago
    What exactly is terrible about it other than that you disagree?

dinkumthinkum 2y ago

It's worse to be a US citizen? Then why are so many people coming in the US and why are so many people upset about removing the ones that come here illegally? It seems like people should be happy the federal government is giving them free rides away from here if it is so bad ...