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In most enterprise jobs aside from specialized, vertical markets, the operating system doesn’t matter. So why not use Windows PCs? They are cheaper, companies

In most enterprise jobs aside from specialized, vertical markets, the operating system doesn’t matter. So why not use Windows PCs? They are cheaper, companies like Dell have great enterprise support contracts, IT installed malware (ie MDM software) is mature, etc. In tech oriented companies, employees are usually given a choice between Windows or Macs.

thorin 2y ago
I agree for the most part, however the question is more about where the windows product itself is moving.
- scarface_74 2y ago
  Nowhere as far as anything innovative or ground breaking (the same for Macs). Because of the enterprise lock in, Microsoft can’t make drastic changes to Windows. If anything, they are still trying to get away from their x86 dependence and move people to ARM. But on the other hand, from what I heard about the latest surface laptops running x86, they get great battery life and are only slightly worse in performance than ARM equivalence. As far as software, only vertical markets where software has to be done offline or performance is critical will we see any Windows native software. Windows isn’t even Microsoft’s core concern anymore. It’s Office. Server products and Azure.
- beefnugs 2y ago
  The windows product itself is being enshittified into an ad delivery machine, and surveillance tool. As for writing apps for it: use dotNET, IT work will be using powershell
  - scarface_74 2y ago
    Most large well run businesses use MDM and have rules to preveht information leakage to Microsoft and ads. When I use to buy Windows computers, I always bought the business line. Are they just as bad as the consumer products these days? The last time I bought a Windows PC was 2016.
AnimalMuppet 2y ago
> So why not use Windows PCs? If "the operating system doesn't matter", there's this thing called Linux. You can still buy Dell computers and have their enterprise support, and run RedHat or whatever, and have their enterprise support. So, other than habit, why should Windows be the default?
- scarface_74 2y ago
  Why use Linux? Everyone knows Windows, it only adds $30 to the cost, it’s easy to hire cheap Windows admins, etc. I was saying that the operating system doesn’t matter between Windows and Macs where there is mainstream commercial software - especially Office365 - and people are already comfortable with it.
- staticman2 2y ago
  Office 365 apps don't work on Linix so if your company uses it, operating system does matter.

thorin 2y ago

I agree for the most part, however the question is more about where the windows product itself is moving.

scarface_74 2y ago
Nowhere as far as anything innovative or ground breaking (the same for Macs). Because of the enterprise lock in, Microsoft can’t make drastic changes to Windows. If anything, they are still trying to get away from their x86 dependence and move people to ARM. But on the other hand, from what I heard about the latest surface laptops running x86, they get great battery life and are only slightly worse in performance than ARM equivalence. As far as software, only vertical markets where software has to be done offline or performance is critical will we see any Windows native software. Windows isn’t even Microsoft’s core concern anymore. It’s Office. Server products and Azure.
beefnugs 2y ago
The windows product itself is being enshittified into an ad delivery machine, and surveillance tool. As for writing apps for it: use dotNET, IT work will be using powershell
- scarface_74 2y ago
  Most large well run businesses use MDM and have rules to preveht information leakage to Microsoft and ads. When I use to buy Windows computers, I always bought the business line. Are they just as bad as the consumer products these days? The last time I bought a Windows PC was 2016.

AnimalMuppet 2y ago

> So why not use Windows PCs? If "the operating system doesn't matter", there's this thing called Linux. You can still buy Dell computers and have their enterprise support, and run RedHat or whatever, and have their enterprise support. So, other than habit, why should Windows be the default?

scarface_74 2y ago
Why use Linux? Everyone knows Windows, it only adds $30 to the cost, it’s easy to hire cheap Windows admins, etc. I was saying that the operating system doesn’t matter between Windows and Macs where there is mainstream commercial software - especially Office365 - and people are already comfortable with it.
staticman2 2y ago
Office 365 apps don't work on Linix so if your company uses it, operating system does matter.