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We know Russia invested a lot in this outcome. Hence, at some point, this government will be seen as treasonous. Didn't China as well, wouldn't they know it's a
by rplnt 2y ago
We know Russia invested a lot in this outcome. Hence, at some point, this government will be seen as treasonous. Didn't China as well, wouldn't they know it's a net win for them and their interests, despite the few hurdles ("tariffs") that were announced?
- sebazzz 2y agoI never understood why there hasn't been more investigation into Russian influence during the last four years. But maybe the ones to make a call about that didn't care.
- RealityVoid 2y agoI think the hope was that the US electorate would be better than this and see through the bullshit. They weren't.
- SpicyLemonZest 2y agoIt seems to me that it was extensively investigated and the strongest claims about Russian influence didn’t end up being true.
- RealityVoid 2y agoI think the most dangerous claims about Russian interference could not be proven true, they weren't proven false. I'm talking here about Trump being a full on Russian asset. As a side note, I'm not sure that he is _explicitely_ in contact with Russia, but since he got oRussian assistance, an implicit quit-pro-quo is obvious to me. The fact Russia meddled in US elections is pretty clear cut by this point. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_interference_in_the_2016_United_States_elections https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_interference_in_the_... This is spelled out by the Republican Comitee as well.
- mikeyouse 2y agoMost of the claims of Russian influence were directly proven, the only thing not proven was direct coordination with the presidents campaign. Notably, there were several ‘dangled pardons’ to prevent people from testifying (pardons that were eventually granted) so who knows what actually happened.
- tsimionescu 2y agoBy all accounts, Russia invested next to nothing in this outcome compared to how much Musk alone invested, never mind the whole of Trump's campaign.