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You have a whole government getting dismantled, with purpose. I wouldn’t bet on Trump getting reelected or extending his term — but the bigger question is: what

You have a whole government getting dismantled, with purpose. I wouldn’t bet on Trump getting reelected or extending his term — but the bigger question is: what will be left at the end of it? It’s not impossible the very idea of a “US presidency” radically changes by 2028.

matwood 2y ago
We’ll know which way the wind is blowing by the midterms. If the plan is to never cede power again it will also have to be done by then. Trump is speed running the US to a recession which bodes well for 2026 assuming they happen.
- AlecSchueler 2y ago
  If the recession is heavy enough that people take to the streets he can declare martial law.
  - bluGill 2y ago
    But will the militry agree or like south korea resist?
    - tremon 2y ago
      They probably won't need the military: the police itself is already heavily militarized. But I have no illusion that Hegseth would even blink one eye before deploying soldiers domestically.
- FranzFerdiNaN 2y ago
  Right now I wouldn’t be certain there will be anything resembling midterms. Trump and his pals are speedrunning turning America into an Russia-style oligarchy. There will be of course be “elections”, that happen to always turn out exactly like the sitting power wants it to be.
  - ithkuil 2y ago
    I'm not saying they wouldn't like to try that, but I'm not sure exactly how that may happen. Do you think flooding the zone with shit will work? If they actively rig the next elections do you think that any attempt to point that out will be met by "you were saying all the time that elections cannot be rigged"? It seems society has been caught off guard by the transformation in the media landscape and the resulting fragmentation of attention.
    - tremon 2y ago
      If the POTUS were to determine the outcome of the midterm elections by decree, that act would be legal. The SCOTUS has already paved all the way to hell.
      - ithkuil 2y ago
        As a layperson I find this statement quite hard to believe. More details would help
    - archagon 2y ago
      “Citizens must vote only through X, with verified ID.”
- hobs 2y ago
  https://ogles.house.gov/media/press-releases/rep-ogles-proposes-amending-22nd-amendment-allow-trump-serve-third-term https://ogles.house.gov/media/press-releases/rep-ogles-propo... It has already been floated.
jonstewart 2y ago
USAID is basically shut down right now. It’s illegal, of course—it was created by an act of Congress and the money it gives out is typically in the form of contracts for specific projects, so everyone not getting paid has a contract dispute. But it’ll take time for the administration to lose in court. In the meantime, the lack of cash flow is causing people to be laid off and then organizations will shutter. And that’s the goal, dismantling the capability. It’ll also probably cause a recession.

matwood 2y ago

We’ll know which way the wind is blowing by the midterms. If the plan is to never cede power again it will also have to be done by then. Trump is speed running the US to a recession which bodes well for 2026 assuming they happen.

AlecSchueler 2y ago
If the recession is heavy enough that people take to the streets he can declare martial law.
- bluGill 2y ago
  But will the militry agree or like south korea resist?
  - tremon 2y ago
    They probably won't need the military: the police itself is already heavily militarized. But I have no illusion that Hegseth would even blink one eye before deploying soldiers domestically.
FranzFerdiNaN 2y ago
Right now I wouldn’t be certain there will be anything resembling midterms. Trump and his pals are speedrunning turning America into an Russia-style oligarchy. There will be of course be “elections”, that happen to always turn out exactly like the sitting power wants it to be.
- ithkuil 2y ago
  I'm not saying they wouldn't like to try that, but I'm not sure exactly how that may happen. Do you think flooding the zone with shit will work? If they actively rig the next elections do you think that any attempt to point that out will be met by "you were saying all the time that elections cannot be rigged"? It seems society has been caught off guard by the transformation in the media landscape and the resulting fragmentation of attention.
  - tremon 2y ago
    If the POTUS were to determine the outcome of the midterm elections by decree, that act would be legal. The SCOTUS has already paved all the way to hell.
    - ithkuil 2y ago
      As a layperson I find this statement quite hard to believe. More details would help
  - archagon 2y ago
    “Citizens must vote only through X, with verified ID.”
hobs 2y ago
https://ogles.house.gov/media/press-releases/rep-ogles-proposes-amending-22nd-amendment-allow-trump-serve-third-term https://ogles.house.gov/media/press-releases/rep-ogles-propo... It has already been floated.

jonstewart 2y ago

USAID is basically shut down right now. It’s illegal, of course—it was created by an act of Congress and the money it gives out is typically in the form of contracts for specific projects, so everyone not getting paid has a contract dispute. But it’ll take time for the administration to lose in court. In the meantime, the lack of cash flow is causing people to be laid off and then organizations will shutter. And that’s the goal, dismantling the capability. It’ll also probably cause a recession.