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Remember how a few days ago, headlines were exploding how DeepSeek wouldn't answer questions about Tiananmen Square and other "sensitive topics"? Well, welcome

by isodev 2y ago

Remember how a few days ago, headlines were exploding how DeepSeek wouldn't answer questions about Tiananmen Square and other "sensitive topics"? Well, welcome to the inside part of a great wall in the making. Thoughts and prayers y'all.

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- jmg_ 2y ago
  Care to comment on how CDC resources for primary care providers have been removed related to contraceptive eligibility? https://www.cdc.gov/contraception/hcp/provider-tools/index.html https://www.cdc.gov/contraception/hcp/provider-tools/index.h... https://web.archive.org/web/20241219075518/https://www.cdc.gov/contraception/hcp/provider-tools/index.html https://web.archive.org/web/20241219075518/https://www.cdc.g... https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=gov.cdc.ondieh.nccdphp.contraception2&hl=en_US https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=gov.cdc.ondieh... https://web.archive.org/web/20241231085620/https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=gov.cdc.ondieh.nccdphp.contraception2&hl=en_US https://web.archive.org/web/20241231085620/https://play.goog...
  - rocqua 2y ago
    China supresses information because they fear the anger of the oppressed. This censorship is much more petty. "My child hates me, and it can't be my fault. Let's call some modern progress ideology, and stomp all over it". This isn't about repression, it's a show of force. Both for intimidation, and to gather admiration. Because it is cool if you can be above the law. It takes strength to be above the law, so we should respect it. Scary thing is, it seems to be working.
    - spuz 2y ago
      Honestly this is in some ways worse to me. The US government already know their people will not rebel. Somehow, despite the higher consequences this time around, far fewer people have been willing to protest. In 2017, millions demonstrated across the country, this year it was only a few thousand: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/jan/18/womens-march-peoples-march https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/jan/18/womens-march...
      - rocqua 2y ago
        Does it matter that this election was won with a clear margin, also in the popular vote? I feel like it does. Rebellion and protest wil require those who supported Trump to change their mind. Democracy demands it. Which shows that things get weird if a majority of people favor the dissolution of rule of law within a democracy. A point it seems the US has reached, but I would give it another few months to give people time to really see what they voted for.
        spuz 2y ago
        If everyone who supported a shift towards facism protested against everyone who did not, I believe you'd see much lower proportion than the 49% of voters who voted for Trump. In fact, you'd probably see a much lower proportion than the 31% of eligible voters who voted for Trump. I'd estimate maybe only half of people who voted for Trump actually support most of his policies. That puts it at just 11% of the population of the US and I think that's already far too generous. You are right, we should be democratic and allow people's views to be represented. But I don't think as many people support these policies as a simple count of the number of votes Trump received might suggest.
        rocqua 2y ago
        Yes, not half of America supports the slide into facism. But I think some of those who supported trump need to publicly disavow this slide in order for opposition to be viable. Resistance to facism make a lot more sense if people believe a new, fair, election would actually help.

by isodev 2y ago

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jmg_ 2y ago
Care to comment on how CDC resources for primary care providers have been removed related to contraceptive eligibility? https://www.cdc.gov/contraception/hcp/provider-tools/index.html https://www.cdc.gov/contraception/hcp/provider-tools/index.h... https://web.archive.org/web/20241219075518/https://www.cdc.gov/contraception/hcp/provider-tools/index.html https://web.archive.org/web/20241219075518/https://www.cdc.g... https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=gov.cdc.ondieh.nccdphp.contraception2&hl=en_US https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=gov.cdc.ondieh... https://web.archive.org/web/20241231085620/https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=gov.cdc.ondieh.nccdphp.contraception2&hl=en_US https://web.archive.org/web/20241231085620/https://play.goog...
- rocqua 2y ago
  China supresses information because they fear the anger of the oppressed. This censorship is much more petty. "My child hates me, and it can't be my fault. Let's call some modern progress ideology, and stomp all over it". This isn't about repression, it's a show of force. Both for intimidation, and to gather admiration. Because it is cool if you can be above the law. It takes strength to be above the law, so we should respect it. Scary thing is, it seems to be working.
  - spuz 2y ago
    Honestly this is in some ways worse to me. The US government already know their people will not rebel. Somehow, despite the higher consequences this time around, far fewer people have been willing to protest. In 2017, millions demonstrated across the country, this year it was only a few thousand: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/jan/18/womens-march-peoples-march https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/jan/18/womens-march...
    - rocqua 2y ago
      Does it matter that this election was won with a clear margin, also in the popular vote? I feel like it does. Rebellion and protest wil require those who supported Trump to change their mind. Democracy demands it. Which shows that things get weird if a majority of people favor the dissolution of rule of law within a democracy. A point it seems the US has reached, but I would give it another few months to give people time to really see what they voted for.
      - spuz 2y ago
        If everyone who supported a shift towards facism protested against everyone who did not, I believe you'd see much lower proportion than the 49% of voters who voted for Trump. In fact, you'd probably see a much lower proportion than the 31% of eligible voters who voted for Trump. I'd estimate maybe only half of people who voted for Trump actually support most of his policies. That puts it at just 11% of the population of the US and I think that's already far too generous. You are right, we should be democratic and allow people's views to be represented. But I don't think as many people support these policies as a simple count of the number of votes Trump received might suggest.
        rocqua 2y ago
        Yes, not half of America supports the slide into facism. But I think some of those who supported trump need to publicly disavow this slide in order for opposition to be viable. Resistance to facism make a lot more sense if people believe a new, fair, election would actually help.