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China, Canada, and Mexico will all retaliate, there is zero consequence for the governments doing so and a lot of consequence for not doing do (Trump is very un

China, Canada, and Mexico will all retaliate, there is zero consequence for the governments doing so and a lot of consequence for not doing do (Trump is very unpopular in all of these countries, so giving into him or agreeing to his terms won’t be seen as very viable). So get the popcorn ready, this weekend and especially Monday will be really interesting. I bet this concludes with a free trade treaty between China, Canada, and Mexico. I’m actually sympathetic to the fent problem, but all that comes in untariffed anyways, or maybe the plan was to have the smugglers busy with illicit legos and bananas instead?

llm_nerd 2y ago
>I’m actually sympathetic to the fent problem If this were limited to China and Mexico, the fentanyl thing might have been a rational argument. Adding Canada, which is the source of a vanishingly small amount, betrays the lie. He needed the excuse to claim an emergency, rather than the incredibly self-destructive "recreate federal funding through tariffs" policy, which coincidentally (and forebodingly) led to the great depression.
- fuzzfactor 2y ago
  >led to the great depression. This is the only kind of thing Trump is on track to make great again. Doesn't look like he's going to stop until it's greater than ever.
- _DeadFred_ 2y ago
  Living near the border, we send way more drugs Canada's way than come back down to us. Maybe before weed was legal more was coming the other direction, but fent/mexi's are going from us to Canada.
1over137 2y ago
>I bet this concludes with a free trade treaty between China, Canada, and Mexico. Well Canada & Mexico already have NAFTA 2.0. I doubt there will be one between Canada and China, they have frosty relations.
- llm_nerd 2y ago
  Canada is a member of CPTPP, which was the replacement for TPP that Trump backed the US out of. Canada really doesn't have a bad relationship with China. We had a tiff previously when we arrested Meng Wanzhou on behalf of the US, and in return China arrested the Canadian "two Michaels"[1] and both countries used Canada as a pawn. [1] I turns out they were, in effect, intelligence operatives in a sense, and China actually had a case. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/mar/07/michael-spavor-settlement-canada https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/mar/07/michael-spavor...
  - Ekaros 2y ago
    Also who if not Chinese from China would keep pumping in money to Canadian real estate market... Have to keep inflating that bubble.
  - seanmcdirmid 2y ago
    Never take pictures of naval/military installations in China, even when they are right next to popular tourist sites. It’s like if in San Diego, taking a picture of a carrier parked downtown could land you in prison. There are also so many laws on the books (mostly unenforced until convenient) that most foreigners touring or resident in China can be used as a hostage if necessary.

llm_nerd 2y ago

>I’m actually sympathetic to the fent problem If this were limited to China and Mexico, the fentanyl thing might have been a rational argument. Adding Canada, which is the source of a vanishingly small amount, betrays the lie. He needed the excuse to claim an emergency, rather than the incredibly self-destructive "recreate federal funding through tariffs" policy, which coincidentally (and forebodingly) led to the great depression.

fuzzfactor 2y ago
>led to the great depression. This is the only kind of thing Trump is on track to make great again. Doesn't look like he's going to stop until it's greater than ever.
_DeadFred_ 2y ago
Living near the border, we send way more drugs Canada's way than come back down to us. Maybe before weed was legal more was coming the other direction, but fent/mexi's are going from us to Canada.

1over137 2y ago

>I bet this concludes with a free trade treaty between China, Canada, and Mexico. Well Canada & Mexico already have NAFTA 2.0. I doubt there will be one between Canada and China, they have frosty relations.

llm_nerd 2y ago
Canada is a member of CPTPP, which was the replacement for TPP that Trump backed the US out of. Canada really doesn't have a bad relationship with China. We had a tiff previously when we arrested Meng Wanzhou on behalf of the US, and in return China arrested the Canadian "two Michaels"[1] and both countries used Canada as a pawn. [1] I turns out they were, in effect, intelligence operatives in a sense, and China actually had a case. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/mar/07/michael-spavor-settlement-canada https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/mar/07/michael-spavor...
- Ekaros 2y ago
  Also who if not Chinese from China would keep pumping in money to Canadian real estate market... Have to keep inflating that bubble.
- seanmcdirmid 2y ago
  Never take pictures of naval/military installations in China, even when they are right next to popular tourist sites. It’s like if in San Diego, taking a picture of a carrier parked downtown could land you in prison. There are also so many laws on the books (mostly unenforced until convenient) that most foreigners touring or resident in China can be used as a hostage if necessary.