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They really need someone in marketing. If the model is for technical stuff, then call it the technical model. How is anyone supposed to know what these model n
by kingnothing 2y ago
They really need someone in marketing.
If the model is for technical stuff, then call it the technical model. How is anyone supposed to know what these model names mean?
The only page of theirs attempting to explain this is a total disaster. https://platform.openai.com/docs/models https://platform.openai.com/docs/models
- rowanG077 2y agoIf marketing terms from intel, AMD, Dell and other tech companies have taught me anything, it's that they need LESS of people in marketing.
- TeMPOraL 2y agoBut think of all the other marketers whose job is to produce blogspam explaining confusing product names!
- ninetyninenine 2y agoI bet you can get one of their models to fix that disaster.
- ryanhecht 2y agoBut what would we call that model?
- aleph_minus_one 2y ago> But what would we call that model? Ask one of their models for advice. :-)
- ryanhecht 2y agoReminds me of a joke in the musical "How to Succeed in Business Without Really Trying" (written in 1961): PETERSON Oh say, Tackaberry, did you get my memo? TACKABERRY What memo? PETERSON My memo about memos. We're sending out too many memos and it's got to stop! TACKABERRY All right. I'll send out a memo.
- ninetyninenine 2y agoLet’s call it “O5 Pro Max Elite”—because if nonsense naming works for smartphones, why not AI models?
- n2d4 2y ago> They really need someone in marketing. Who said this is not intentional? It seems to work well given that people are hyped every time there's a release, no matter how big the actual improvements are — I'm pretty sure "o3-mini" works better for that purpose than "GPT 4.1.3"
- fkyoureadthedoc 2y ago> I'm pretty sure "o3-mini" works better for that purpose than "GPT 4.1.3" Why would the marketing team of all people call it GPT 4.1.3?
- n2d4 2y agoThey wouldn't! They would call it o3-mini, even though GPT 4.1.3 may or may not "make more sense" from a technical perspective.
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- ryanhecht 2y agoUgh, and some of the rows of that table are "sets of models" while some are singular models...there's the "Flagship models" section at the top only for "GPT models" to be heralded as "Our fast, versatile, high intelligence flagship models" in the NEXT section... ...I like "DALL·E" and "Whisper" as names a lot, though, FWIW :p
- golly_ned 2y agoYes, this $300Bn company generating +$3.4Bn in revenue needs to hire marketing expert. They can begin by sourcing ideas from us here to save their struggling business from total marketing disaster.
- winrid 2y agoAt the least they should care more about UX. I have no idea how to restore the sidebar on chatgpt on desktop lol
- Legend2440 2y agoClick the 'open sidebar' icon in the top left corner of the screen.
- winrid 2y agoThere isn't one, unless they fixed it today. Just a down arrow to change the model.
- Legend2440 2y agoTry clearing your cache, the button has always been there for me.
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- winrid 2y agojust reproduced this, not sure what button it is, I think page up? but it removes the sidebar, messes up the layout, and no obv way to fix.
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- TeMPOraL 2y ago> How is anyone supposed to know what these model names mean? Normies don't have to know - ChatGPT app focuses UX around capabilities and automatically picks the appropriate model for capabilities requested; you can see which model you're using and change it, but don't need to. As for the techies and self-proclaimed "AI experts" - OpenAI is the leader in the field, and one of the most well-known and talked about tech companies in history. Whether to use, praise or criticize, this group of users is motivated to figure it out on their own. It's the privilege of fashionable companies. They could name the next model ↂ-↊↋, and it'll take all of five minutes for everyone in tech (and everyone on LinkedIn) to learn how to type in the right Unicode characters. EDIT: Originally I wrote \Omega-↊↋, but apparently HN's Unicode filter extends to Greek alphabet now? 'dang?
- relaxing 2y agoWhat if you use ASCII 234? Ω (edit: works!)
- TeMPOraL 2y agoThanks! I copied mine from Wikipedia (like I typically do with Unicode characters I rarely use), where it is also Ω - the same character. For a moment I was worried I somehow got it mixed up with the Ohm symbol but I didn't. Not sure what happened here.
- koakuma-chan 2y agoName is just a label. It's not supposed to mean anything.
- ninetyninenine 2y agoThink how awesome the world would be if labels ALSO had meanings.
- koakuma-chan 2y agoAs someone else said in another thread, if you could derive the definition from a word, the word would be as long as the definition, which would defeat the purpose.
- ninetyninenine 2y agoIm not saying words. Im saying labels. You use words as labels so that we use our pre existing knowledge of the word to derive meaning from the label.
- TeMPOraL 2y agoThere is no such thing. "Meaning" isn't a property of a label, it arises from how that label is used with other labels in communication. It's actually the reason LLMs work in the first place.
- optimalsolver 2y agoYou're gonna need to ground those labels in something physical at some point. No one's going to let an LLM near anything important until then.
- TeMPOraL 2y agoYou only need it for bootstrapping. Fortunately, we've already done that when we invented first languages. LLMs are just bootstrapping off us.