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It's probably the lack of understanding the market... Most people thought there was a ban (issued by the US in 2022) against China being able to utilize the H10

by jijji 2y ago

It's probably the lack of understanding the market... Most people thought there was a ban (issued by the US in 2022) against China being able to utilize the H100 Nvidia graphics cards to prevent them from using AI (for the obvious purpose of oppressing their people). If anything, export controls need to be looked at and probably tightened as this is a glaring loop hole.

thorncorona 2y ago
Huawei has B200 competitive inference chips coming.
- jijji 2y ago
  Nvidia has the Blackwell B200, its latest GPU card. Huawei's offering is called Ascend 910C. Huawei's future offering to compete against the Nvidia Blackwell B200 is called Ascend 920C.
teleforce 2y ago
> export controls need to be looked at and probably tightened as this is a glaring loop hole US is the prominent trade freedom proponent champion until it does not suits them Also US is the prominent democracy proponent champion until it does not suits them And also US is the free speech freedom champion until it does not suits them
- jijji 2y ago
  I can understand your argument, but I also understand why the US would try to ban an oppressive regime who specifically use technology like AI for ubiquitous surveillance, behavior monitoring and social credit, facial recognition systems that can identify Uyghurs and alert authorities, internet monitoring (they arrest people every day for writing banned words on WeChat for example)... I think it's probably fine if they make the equipment themselves, but US probably shouldn't be supporting this type of activity.
  - amlib 2y ago
    Sorry for the whataboutism, but the US looks more and more hypocrite when they sell themselves as the paragons of democracy and free trade, ready to save the world from authoritarian China but are fine selling AI and AI hardware (and armament, but that's another matter...) to Israel's oppressive regime which clearly uses it to persecute and kill innocent Palestinians. It's all just dirty politics, in the end none of the people in power care if selling such technology feeds a monster or not, as long as they get their bags of money.
    - blackeyeblitzar 2y ago
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      - computerthings 2y ago
        > surveys indicated that an overwhelming majority of residents of Gaza supported Hamas Come on, nearly half of the inhabitants of Gaza are/were under 18. "Surveys" cannot make collective punishment legal, or annexation and ethnic cleansing for that matter. I'd say outright cutting off a whole population from food and going on TV to rant about how even the babies are terrorists isn't self-defense or security. If anything it's with a second set religious extremists that needs Hamas just like Hamas needs them. And in similar fashion, they use "Israel" as a shield for what they want, despite the Israelis who do respect human rights and international law, and get threatened for it. > You’re trying to separate Hamas from everyday people in Gaza They are separate. Each person is responsible for their actions. You can't speak of democracy and then casually ignore this.
        blackeyeblitzar 2y ago
        I mentioned the surveys to indicate the complicity of the civilian population in Hamas’s actions. Often people claim the residents of Gaza didn’t vote for Hamas since the last election was in 2006. But the surveys reveal that most of them do support them and their religious terrorism. > "Surveys" cannot make collective punishment legal, or annexation and ethnic cleansing for that matter. What do you mean by annexation given that the entire region, including Jerusalem, the West Bank, and Gaza were occupied by Jewish people long before Islamic Arabs were in the area? What do you mean by ethnic cleansing given that Gaza’s population has grown rapidly over time, given Israel announces targets ahead of time, and given that most of Gaza’s residents still live? Israel could level all of Gaza but they haven’t done anything even remotely close to that. Even the highest claimed counts of deaths in Gaza would amount to a couple percent of the population. That doesn’t seem very successful for an ethnic cleansing. > outright cutting off a whole population from food Food and aid which Hamas stole and sold for money to fund terrorism to kill Israelis, all aided by UNRWA. > Each person is responsible for their actions. Right and Hamas was voted in by everyday people and still has their broad support despite terrorism, murder, and rape.
- blackeyeblitzar 2y ago
  There are probably exceptional situations for each, but the US is far more for these things than against, to an extent that is unique and unprecedented. And that has improved lives and secured freedom not just for Americans but for many people around the world. Your negative take on the US isn’t convincing for me, as it is uncritical. Who champions free speech more, for example?
- stickfigure 2y ago
  "US" is not a monolithic mind.

by jijji 2y ago

thorncorona 2y ago

Huawei has B200 competitive inference chips coming.

jijji 2y ago
Nvidia has the Blackwell B200, its latest GPU card. Huawei's offering is called Ascend 910C. Huawei's future offering to compete against the Nvidia Blackwell B200 is called Ascend 920C.

teleforce 2y ago

> export controls need to be looked at and probably tightened as this is a glaring loop hole US is the prominent trade freedom proponent champion until it does not suits them Also US is the prominent democracy proponent champion until it does not suits them And also US is the free speech freedom champion until it does not suits them

jijji 2y ago
I can understand your argument, but I also understand why the US would try to ban an oppressive regime who specifically use technology like AI for ubiquitous surveillance, behavior monitoring and social credit, facial recognition systems that can identify Uyghurs and alert authorities, internet monitoring (they arrest people every day for writing banned words on WeChat for example)... I think it's probably fine if they make the equipment themselves, but US probably shouldn't be supporting this type of activity.
- amlib 2y ago
  Sorry for the whataboutism, but the US looks more and more hypocrite when they sell themselves as the paragons of democracy and free trade, ready to save the world from authoritarian China but are fine selling AI and AI hardware (and armament, but that's another matter...) to Israel's oppressive regime which clearly uses it to persecute and kill innocent Palestinians. It's all just dirty politics, in the end none of the people in power care if selling such technology feeds a monster or not, as long as they get their bags of money.
  - blackeyeblitzar 2y ago
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    - computerthings 2y ago
      > surveys indicated that an overwhelming majority of residents of Gaza supported Hamas Come on, nearly half of the inhabitants of Gaza are/were under 18. "Surveys" cannot make collective punishment legal, or annexation and ethnic cleansing for that matter. I'd say outright cutting off a whole population from food and going on TV to rant about how even the babies are terrorists isn't self-defense or security. If anything it's with a second set religious extremists that needs Hamas just like Hamas needs them. And in similar fashion, they use "Israel" as a shield for what they want, despite the Israelis who do respect human rights and international law, and get threatened for it. > You’re trying to separate Hamas from everyday people in Gaza They are separate. Each person is responsible for their actions. You can't speak of democracy and then casually ignore this.
      - blackeyeblitzar 2y ago
        I mentioned the surveys to indicate the complicity of the civilian population in Hamas’s actions. Often people claim the residents of Gaza didn’t vote for Hamas since the last election was in 2006. But the surveys reveal that most of them do support them and their religious terrorism. > "Surveys" cannot make collective punishment legal, or annexation and ethnic cleansing for that matter. What do you mean by annexation given that the entire region, including Jerusalem, the West Bank, and Gaza were occupied by Jewish people long before Islamic Arabs were in the area? What do you mean by ethnic cleansing given that Gaza’s population has grown rapidly over time, given Israel announces targets ahead of time, and given that most of Gaza’s residents still live? Israel could level all of Gaza but they haven’t done anything even remotely close to that. Even the highest claimed counts of deaths in Gaza would amount to a couple percent of the population. That doesn’t seem very successful for an ethnic cleansing. > outright cutting off a whole population from food Food and aid which Hamas stole and sold for money to fund terrorism to kill Israelis, all aided by UNRWA. > Each person is responsible for their actions. Right and Hamas was voted in by everyday people and still has their broad support despite terrorism, murder, and rape.
blackeyeblitzar 2y ago
There are probably exceptional situations for each, but the US is far more for these things than against, to an extent that is unique and unprecedented. And that has improved lives and secured freedom not just for Americans but for many people around the world. Your negative take on the US isn’t convincing for me, as it is uncritical. Who champions free speech more, for example?
stickfigure 2y ago
"US" is not a monolithic mind.