3 ms·

Effect size of -0.3 standard deviations on working memory. P value of .02 corrected for FDR. Not huge. Sounds believable to me.

lumost 2y ago
These studies may also miss categorize heavy/habitual users. Heavy canabis use tends to leave a somewhat functional if unmotivated individual. This is in contrast to heavy alcohol users who quickly lose the ability to function in society due to hangovers and inebriated actions.
- whoknw 2y ago
  That does not match my experience with alcoholics. In my experience they can stay functional in society for a very, very long time. Not that that has anything to do with the original topic :)
- Retric 2y ago
  There are some surprisingly functional heavy drinkers. People who consume alcohol throughout the day rather than just at night can largely avoid hangovers and end up with incredibly high tolerance levels. You don’t want them to operate heavy machinery, but for rote tasks that don’t take a lot of coordination it can be hard to tell.
- defrost 2y ago
  Not all heavy alcohol users quickly lose the ability to function in society. Some have lucrative television careers and go on to run the Pentagon overseeing millions of others and trillion dollar budgets. * https://haderclinicqld.com.au/what-is-a-functional-alcoholic/ https://haderclinicqld.com.au/what-is-a-functional-alcoholic... * https://www.crestviewrecoverycenter.com/addiction-blog/7-signs-of-a-high-functioning-alcoholic/ https://www.crestviewrecoverycenter.com/addiction-blog/7-sig...
  - amazingamazing 2y ago
    Politics is seriously a virus.
  - Acrobatic_Road 2y ago
    That's only because politics elevates the worst of us.
EA-3167 2y ago
Small effect size, and one I'd expect to be comparable to a lot of other things, like similar alcohol use, sleep deprivation, mood disorders, etc. Hard as it may be for some to believe, not all people are trying to optimize for maximum brain function, evidence suggests that a vast swathe of humanity tries very hard to actively REDUCE their function on a recreational basis.

lumost 2y ago

These studies may also miss categorize heavy/habitual users. Heavy canabis use tends to leave a somewhat functional if unmotivated individual. This is in contrast to heavy alcohol users who quickly lose the ability to function in society due to hangovers and inebriated actions.

whoknw 2y ago
That does not match my experience with alcoholics. In my experience they can stay functional in society for a very, very long time. Not that that has anything to do with the original topic :)
Retric 2y ago
There are some surprisingly functional heavy drinkers. People who consume alcohol throughout the day rather than just at night can largely avoid hangovers and end up with incredibly high tolerance levels. You don’t want them to operate heavy machinery, but for rote tasks that don’t take a lot of coordination it can be hard to tell.
defrost 2y ago
Not all heavy alcohol users quickly lose the ability to function in society. Some have lucrative television careers and go on to run the Pentagon overseeing millions of others and trillion dollar budgets. * https://haderclinicqld.com.au/what-is-a-functional-alcoholic/ https://haderclinicqld.com.au/what-is-a-functional-alcoholic... * https://www.crestviewrecoverycenter.com/addiction-blog/7-signs-of-a-high-functioning-alcoholic/ https://www.crestviewrecoverycenter.com/addiction-blog/7-sig...
- amazingamazing 2y ago
  Politics is seriously a virus.
- Acrobatic_Road 2y ago
  That's only because politics elevates the worst of us.

EA-3167 2y ago

Small effect size, and one I'd expect to be comparable to a lot of other things, like similar alcohol use, sleep deprivation, mood disorders, etc. Hard as it may be for some to believe, not all people are trying to optimize for maximum brain function, evidence suggests that a vast swathe of humanity tries very hard to actively REDUCE their function on a recreational basis.