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‎"It's easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled"- Mark Twain The pictures and video I saw of Elon in the news look nothing like t

‎"It's easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled"- Mark Twain The pictures and video I saw of Elon in the news look nothing like the salutes in documentaries, TV shows, and movies. I did see one picture of Kamala making the same gesture as Elon though. There's a mind-virus infecting people. It reminds me of when the front page of reddit was about Trump pooping his pants which didn't happen, but... people want to believe what they want to believe. I don't care what "side" of politics people are on, I hate it when either side doesn't act in good faith. (The front page of reddit is constantly politics now, it's no longer interesting, so I no longer waste my time there.)

notachatbot123 2y ago
> I did see one picture of Kamala making the same gesture as Elon though. A picture lacks context. And if that is the one which I think it is, it is clearly an utterly different gesture due to the context. Misrepresenting that is not acting in good faith. He often does not look normal. He gave a nazi salute to the USA flag. He saluted once to the crowd, then turned around and saluted to the flag. Sadly many people have not seen the full video.
- RandomBacon 2y ago
  > He often does not look normal. Nor does he talk "normally", so that's why I don't put much faith in the assumption that he was thinking that he was doing a Nazi salute.
  - notachatbot123 2y ago
    Have you seen what he posts on his social media accounts? It is full of fascist, racist, conspiracy content. It is almost certain that he knows how a Nazi salute looks like and that it was two of them.
    - XajniN 2y ago
      Conspiracy yes, but fascist or racist never.
      - true_religion 2y ago
        In case anyone sees this... this is true. I've never actually seen Elon himself post something blatantly racist. Instead he'll wait till someone else like Marjorie Taylor Greene posts something like "jewish space lasers are responsible for California fires" and he'll retweet "close". He does this so often, it's like he wants to be technically innocent of wrongdoing, but he's associating with all the bad actors.
junon 2y ago
The gestures were nothing alike[0] and living in Germany I can tell you most people here agree on what it looks like. [0] https://x.com/C_Kavanagh/status/1882176442689331410 https://x.com/C_Kavanagh/status/1882176442689331410
- RandomBacon 2y ago
  Not sure if the picture was from that video, but I appreciate it. I also have never lived in Germany, but I assume Germans have seen more historical depictions than I have, so thank you for that datapoint.
- ryandrake 2y ago
  Anyone who thinks it was not a Nazi gesture, go into work and do the exact gesture in front of your manager, and see what happens.
hobs 2y ago
Amusing, since the entire defense of Elon at this point is a bad faith attempt to dilute the richest man in the world's continued racist ideas, comments, and actions.
adleyjulian 2y ago
You can argue the gesture was unintentional, but to say it "look nothing like the salutes in documentaries, TV shows, and movies" is just a lie. Nothing like it? What would he had to have to have done differently for you to say it looked similar?

notachatbot123 2y ago

> I did see one picture of Kamala making the same gesture as Elon though. A picture lacks context. And if that is the one which I think it is, it is clearly an utterly different gesture due to the context. Misrepresenting that is not acting in good faith. He often does not look normal. He gave a nazi salute to the USA flag. He saluted once to the crowd, then turned around and saluted to the flag. Sadly many people have not seen the full video.

RandomBacon 2y ago
> He often does not look normal. Nor does he talk "normally", so that's why I don't put much faith in the assumption that he was thinking that he was doing a Nazi salute.
- notachatbot123 2y ago
  Have you seen what he posts on his social media accounts? It is full of fascist, racist, conspiracy content. It is almost certain that he knows how a Nazi salute looks like and that it was two of them.
  - XajniN 2y ago
    Conspiracy yes, but fascist or racist never.
    - true_religion 2y ago
      In case anyone sees this... this is true. I've never actually seen Elon himself post something blatantly racist. Instead he'll wait till someone else like Marjorie Taylor Greene posts something like "jewish space lasers are responsible for California fires" and he'll retweet "close". He does this so often, it's like he wants to be technically innocent of wrongdoing, but he's associating with all the bad actors.

junon 2y ago

The gestures were nothing alike[0] and living in Germany I can tell you most people here agree on what it looks like. [0] https://x.com/C_Kavanagh/status/1882176442689331410 https://x.com/C_Kavanagh/status/1882176442689331410

RandomBacon 2y ago
Not sure if the picture was from that video, but I appreciate it. I also have never lived in Germany, but I assume Germans have seen more historical depictions than I have, so thank you for that datapoint.
ryandrake 2y ago
Anyone who thinks it was not a Nazi gesture, go into work and do the exact gesture in front of your manager, and see what happens.

hobs 2y ago

Amusing, since the entire defense of Elon at this point is a bad faith attempt to dilute the richest man in the world's continued racist ideas, comments, and actions.

adleyjulian 2y ago

You can argue the gesture was unintentional, but to say it "look nothing like the salutes in documentaries, TV shows, and movies" is just a lie. Nothing like it? What would he had to have to have done differently for you to say it looked similar?