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Why Apple is getting into bed with Elon is beyond me. As a customer with tens of thousands spent at Apple and stocks to boot I don’t like this.
by gigatexal 2y ago
Why Apple is getting into bed with Elon is beyond me. As a customer with tens of thousands spent at Apple and stocks to boot I don’t like this.
- pjerem 2y agoSame situation, I'm actually thinking about not buying Apple anymore.
- inemesitaffia 2y agoT-Mobile is the partner.
- inemesitaffia 2y agoYou want to go Android where Google is a shareholder of Starlink and also supports this on Samsung phones? Anyway T-Mobile is the partner here, not SpaceX
- GeekyBear 2y agoGoogle and Starlink are direct partners. > Under the partnership, SpaceX will locate Starlink ground stations within Google’s data centre properties. https://theincmagazine.com/google-cloud-has-signed-a-deal-with-spacex-to-connect-its-starlink-internet-connectivity/ https://theincmagazine.com/google-cloud-has-signed-a-deal-wi...
- inemesitaffia 2y agoI know that. Starlink used to run in Google cloud and appeared as Google Fi on speed test websites. But this direct to cell product, the customer is T-Mobile and SpaceX is the seller. T-Mobile has a partnership with Apple. And modifying phones to support these services is part of what is done
- GeekyBear 2y agoGoogle also partners directly with Starlink to provide emergency SOS texting on current year Pixel phones, regardless of who your carrier is.
- newsclues 2y agoBecause normal people don't hate or care about Elon. TDS should not be tolerated in polite society.
- true_religion 2y agoThis is hardly TDS. Elon made his own 'gestures' then went to an AfD rally to clarify his position with a bullhorn in case some didn't hear the dog whistle.
- newsclues 2y agoCritique the technology please. Leave the personalities out of it. Hatred of Elon so intense it impairs peoples judgement. This is exactly that.
- tchock23 2y agoEarlier you posted about TDS. You’re the one that made this thread political and not about technology.
- philistine 2y agoTo them, it's not political if it's hardcore conservatism.
- skyyler 2y agoBeing uneasy about using products and services from a political extremist is a rational and normal position. Calling people that you disagree with deranged or impaired is hardly "leaving personalities out of it". Rhetorical games like that are not helpful or beneficial to the discussion.
- kurisufag 2y agoif the implication is that SpaceX partnerships are undesirable because of elon's alleged personal politics... tim cook is an active, public homosexual. would it make sense to call this "SpaceX getting into bed with the gays"?
- crowcroft 2y agoWhat satellite internet provider should people use instead?
- inemesitaffia 2y agoGlobalstar or Iridium which are SpaceX partners
- brianwawok 2y agoYou mean the ones that are 10x higher in orbit and iPhones can’t communicate with?
- inemesitaffia 2y agoglobalstar is the emergency SOS apple partner on newer phones. with the right antennas and spectrum you can do great things.
- lxgr 2y agoNo, the ones that are in very similar orbits and are already communicating with mobile phones today. Geostationary communication directly to phones is also possible, by the way, assuming the satellite has a big/directional enough antenna. Here's one from 2011: https://www.cnet.com/reviews/terrestar-genus-at-t-review/ https://www.cnet.com/reviews/terrestar-genus-at-t-review/ Google's Pixel uses (I believe) the same satellite today too, among others.
- true_religion 2y agoThey were planning this for months, if not years.
- amazingamazing 2y agoWhy not? It's adding more functionality. Even if Apple used Globalstar, they're a partner of SpaceX and thus still "in bed" with Elon. Even if they didn't use satellite stuff at all, Apple's current CEO donated to Trump's inauguration, along with... you guessed it, Elon.
- Cthulhu_ 2y agoElon or SpaceX? It's important to separate the person and their actions and the company. I wouldn't be surprised / hope that long term Musk leaves or is ousted from SpaceX entirely.
- mort96 2y agoElon. He's the front man and CEO of the company. Just like Tim is for Apple.
- lxgr 2y agoThe actual reason why the two aren't comparable is that Elon is not just the CEO, but also a significant owner of SpaceX (42% equity; 79% voting control, according to Wikipedia). Tim Cook owns less than 1% of Apple.
- ladyanita22 2y agoI do like it
- lxgr 2y agoGiven that this uses standards and protocols iPhones largely already support and are licensed for, not supporting it would seem more like active blocking at some point. As an iPhone user, I really don’t need more instances of Apple telling me what I’m allowed to do at a software level, and on top of that Apple has had no problem allowing network connectivity to networks under all kinds of interesting ownership.
- scyzoryk_xyz 2y agoI don’t think it’s as simple as just Elon. These are enormous companies solving large problems with the objective of delivering value at highest possible profit margin to customers. It’s just business