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Federal employees are being asked who they voted for. This is not hyperbole.

by grajaganDev 2y ago

zelphirkalt 2y ago
Is the US turning into "fourth Reich"?
- alistairSH 2y ago
  My hopes aren't high at this point. Trump and the GOP are hellbent on implementing all of the P2025 agenda - many of the flurry of Eos this week were either literally cribbed from the P2025 document or strongly appear to AI-generated adaptations of the same. Give it 6-12 months and we'll see how the courts react to challenges and if Congress suddenly grows a spine. And if a mid-term swing back to normalcy seems likely.
- insane_dreamer 2y ago
  Luckily we have enough remaining guardrails that it's unlikely to happen within the next 4 years. But we're getting closer, that's for sure. And the Supreme Court's disastrous decision on presidential immunity is allowing Trump to play Generalissimo.
  - mrguyorama 2y ago
    What guardrails are you talking about? Even ignoring the presidential immunity ruling that explicitly makes him Fuhrer, if Trump has ICE arrest all brown people tomorrow, what exactly is going to stop him? The courts? A judge can say whatever the hell they want from their bench, it won't stop an ICE agent from physically forcing you onto a C130 and taking you wherever. Trump already "deported" legal american citizens his first term. Trump supporters openly insist on "deporting" a legal american citizen who dared to tell Trump that he's a meany. The Constitution is just a piece of paper. None of the people in the Trump admin care about it or respect it. It will not save us. The guardrails are all gone.
    - insane_dreamer 2y ago
      I guess I've still been somewhat hopeful that the Legislative and Judicial branches will do their job and curb the worst of Trump's excesses or power grabs. But you're right that it's not looking good so far with the GOP Senate seeming to allow anything Trump wants so far. Hesgeth's confirmation was a really bad sign. And you're right, ICE could well be on its way to turning into the Stasi.
    - datavirtue 2y ago
      10% from each party support deporting legal immigrants.
      - pbhjpbhj 2y ago
        Source?
- datavirtue 2y ago
  Don't anger Orange Adolf.
gtgvdfc 2y ago
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- grajaganDev 2y ago
  I am not sure what you mean by falsified but is this OK? https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-civil-service-loyalty-transition-b2678674.html https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politic... "Incoming senior Trump administration officials have begun questioning career civil servants who work on the White House National Security Council about who they voted for in the 2024 election, their political contributions and whether they have made social media posts that could be considered incriminating by President-elect Donald Trump's team, according to a U.S. official familiar with the matter." That those charged with national security are culled for lack of loyalty should be very concerning - even to those who voted for this person.
  - gtgvdfc 2y ago
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    - grajaganDev 2y ago
      I am considering this in the context of 1930's history.
      - gtgvdfc 2y ago
        Good for you! Myself, I agree with you that Chamberlain is a great model to understand Trump. Pretends to be a pacifist while buying time to strengthen the national economy to fight a big war everyone knows is inevitable because everyone wants it. FDR is also a great model for Trump to understand the political levers to crush both an unelected and disloyal deep state and legitimate opposition. However, may I also recommend you read a history book that doesn't bracket the world wars?
    - insane_dreamer 2y ago
      > So Trump is demanding loyalty from the members of the National Security Council. Not the FTC. Not the DOE. No. He's demanding loyalty from everyone.

Federal employees are being asked who they voted for. This is not hyperbole.

zelphirkalt 2y ago

Is the US turning into "fourth Reich"?

alistairSH 2y ago
My hopes aren't high at this point. Trump and the GOP are hellbent on implementing all of the P2025 agenda - many of the flurry of Eos this week were either literally cribbed from the P2025 document or strongly appear to AI-generated adaptations of the same. Give it 6-12 months and we'll see how the courts react to challenges and if Congress suddenly grows a spine. And if a mid-term swing back to normalcy seems likely.
insane_dreamer 2y ago
Luckily we have enough remaining guardrails that it's unlikely to happen within the next 4 years. But we're getting closer, that's for sure. And the Supreme Court's disastrous decision on presidential immunity is allowing Trump to play Generalissimo.
- mrguyorama 2y ago
  What guardrails are you talking about? Even ignoring the presidential immunity ruling that explicitly makes him Fuhrer, if Trump has ICE arrest all brown people tomorrow, what exactly is going to stop him? The courts? A judge can say whatever the hell they want from their bench, it won't stop an ICE agent from physically forcing you onto a C130 and taking you wherever. Trump already "deported" legal american citizens his first term. Trump supporters openly insist on "deporting" a legal american citizen who dared to tell Trump that he's a meany. The Constitution is just a piece of paper. None of the people in the Trump admin care about it or respect it. It will not save us. The guardrails are all gone.
  - insane_dreamer 2y ago
    I guess I've still been somewhat hopeful that the Legislative and Judicial branches will do their job and curb the worst of Trump's excesses or power grabs. But you're right that it's not looking good so far with the GOP Senate seeming to allow anything Trump wants so far. Hesgeth's confirmation was a really bad sign. And you're right, ICE could well be on its way to turning into the Stasi.
  - datavirtue 2y ago
    10% from each party support deporting legal immigrants.
    - pbhjpbhj 2y ago
      Source?
datavirtue 2y ago
Don't anger Orange Adolf.

gtgvdfc 2y ago

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grajaganDev 2y ago
I am not sure what you mean by falsified but is this OK? https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-civil-service-loyalty-transition-b2678674.html https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politic... "Incoming senior Trump administration officials have begun questioning career civil servants who work on the White House National Security Council about who they voted for in the 2024 election, their political contributions and whether they have made social media posts that could be considered incriminating by President-elect Donald Trump's team, according to a U.S. official familiar with the matter." That those charged with national security are culled for lack of loyalty should be very concerning - even to those who voted for this person.
- gtgvdfc 2y ago
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  - grajaganDev 2y ago
    I am considering this in the context of 1930's history.
    - gtgvdfc 2y ago
      Good for you! Myself, I agree with you that Chamberlain is a great model to understand Trump. Pretends to be a pacifist while buying time to strengthen the national economy to fight a big war everyone knows is inevitable because everyone wants it. FDR is also a great model for Trump to understand the political levers to crush both an unelected and disloyal deep state and legitimate opposition. However, may I also recommend you read a history book that doesn't bracket the world wars?
  - insane_dreamer 2y ago
    > So Trump is demanding loyalty from the members of the National Security Council. Not the FTC. Not the DOE. No. He's demanding loyalty from everyone.