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Yep. Luckily, you can easily lie about who you voted for, and it's not possible to verify.

by chii 2y ago

Etheryte 2y ago
For now. We should never accept basic freedoms being sidelined like this just because there is another one that protects us — what if that one gets the same treatment.
- chii 2y ago
  I mean, it's true, but at an individual level, if your boss (whether this is a gov't job or not) asked you who you voted for, you might need to somehow protect your own interests by not making someone with power over you antagonized. Of course, this should be made illegal - discrimination by political affiliation should be classified as illegal. But whether these laws are effective is another question.
  - JumpCrisscross 2y ago
    > discrimination by political affiliation should be classified as illegal Political affiliation is almost impossible to define. Voting records and party affiliations are not. It should be illegal to discriminate based on someone's voting record or party affiliation, and it should be illegal for the government to ask about it in the context of employment.
    - SauciestGNU 2y ago
      I was told by my city commission that it would be unlawful to screen our police for affiliation or sympathies with violent extremists like the oath keepers and proud boys. But I'm sure this is fine, it's only the federal civil service.
perihelions 2y ago
The norm of democracy is government doesn't ask people who they voted for; not that people lie to the government about who they voted for. Wow, is the Overton Window shifting fast.
- throwup238 2y ago
  The overton window has been at DEFCON Orange for years now.
- richie_adler 2y ago
  It's redshifted already.
- 13_9_7_7_5_18 2y ago
  [dead]
janice1999 2y ago
As long as you didn't voice any ungood thoughts about Dear Leader anywhere... > whether they have made social media posts that could be considered incriminating by President-elect Donald Trump's team
kristianc 2y ago
A good thing the parties don't have registered party affiliation lists they can x-verify the information against then. Of registered voters in the US, 47% have declared a party affiliation.
- rightbyte 2y ago
  Is that one public? Like all these news articles that name which party someone is registered for would imply such.
  - pooper 2y ago
    Party affiliation is public information, at least in Virginia.
  - kristianc 2y ago
    In most states it's public. The Republicans would also have access to their own proprietary voter lists or databases, as well as publicly available voter registration records.
- pjc50 2y ago
  Party affiliation isn't the same as voting, it's a weird thing where what would normally be a private members organization is nationalised somehow.
lawn 2y ago
You think they would stop at not being able to verify it properly? They'll gladly fire you for "not being loyal enough" whatever the cause, for example like ever questioning the dear leader or refusing to do exactly as told.
Terr_ 2y ago
Forcing victims to compromise themselves is part of the strategy. Even as a lie, it demoralizes them, binds them to your organization, and isolates them from one-another.

Yep. Luckily, you can easily lie about who you voted for, and it's not possible to verify.

by chii 2y ago

Yep. Luckily, you can easily lie about who you voted for, and it's not possible to verify.

For now. We should never accept basic freedoms being sidelined like this just because there is another one that protects us — what if that one gets the same treatment.

chii 2y ago
I mean, it's true, but at an individual level, if your boss (whether this is a gov't job or not) asked you who you voted for, you might need to somehow protect your own interests by not making someone with power over you antagonized. Of course, this should be made illegal - discrimination by political affiliation should be classified as illegal. But whether these laws are effective is another question.
- JumpCrisscross 2y ago
  > discrimination by political affiliation should be classified as illegal Political affiliation is almost impossible to define. Voting records and party affiliations are not. It should be illegal to discriminate based on someone's voting record or party affiliation, and it should be illegal for the government to ask about it in the context of employment.
  - SauciestGNU 2y ago
    I was told by my city commission that it would be unlawful to screen our police for affiliation or sympathies with violent extremists like the oath keepers and proud boys. But I'm sure this is fine, it's only the federal civil service.

perihelions 2y ago

The norm of democracy is government doesn't ask people who they voted for; not that people lie to the government about who they voted for. Wow, is the Overton Window shifting fast.

throwup238 2y ago
The overton window has been at DEFCON Orange for years now.
richie_adler 2y ago
It's redshifted already.
13_9_7_7_5_18 2y ago
[dead]

janice1999 2y ago

As long as you didn't voice any ungood thoughts about Dear Leader anywhere... > whether they have made social media posts that could be considered incriminating by President-elect Donald Trump's team

kristianc 2y ago

A good thing the parties don't have registered party affiliation lists they can x-verify the information against then. Of registered voters in the US, 47% have declared a party affiliation.

rightbyte 2y ago
Is that one public? Like all these news articles that name which party someone is registered for would imply such.
- pooper 2y ago
  Party affiliation is public information, at least in Virginia.
- kristianc 2y ago
  In most states it's public. The Republicans would also have access to their own proprietary voter lists or databases, as well as publicly available voter registration records.
pjc50 2y ago
Party affiliation isn't the same as voting, it's a weird thing where what would normally be a private members organization is nationalised somehow.

lawn 2y ago

You think they would stop at not being able to verify it properly? They'll gladly fire you for "not being loyal enough" whatever the cause, for example like ever questioning the dear leader or refusing to do exactly as told.

Terr_ 2y ago

Forcing victims to compromise themselves is part of the strategy. Even as a lie, it demoralizes them, binds them to your organization, and isolates them from one-another.