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It's stunning how so much of our own behavior, or at least explanations of it, reference what turns out to be almost entirely false conclusions. It could take 1

It's stunning how so much of our own behavior, or at least explanations of it, reference what turns out to be almost entirely false conclusions. It could take 100 years to undo.

deepsquirrelnet 2y ago
A more cynical take could be that maybe it fits because we’ve constructed our own captivity or ‘prison conditions’ where this tends to emerge.
- zitsarethecure 2y ago
  Out of curiosity, what conditions would you describe as prison-like that would drive someone to adopt an "alpha male" lifestyle in the US?
  - deepsquirrelnet 2y ago
    > Consider how this plays out in Silicon Valley, where the "move fast and break things" mentality has created a leadership culture that celebrates disruption over sustainability, dominance over collaboration. That’s how the article phrased it. I’m not certain if I agree or not, but I’m not ready to either accept or dismiss it.
readthenotes1 2y ago
Before we start dishing on sociology as junk science, I'd like to point out that a lot of what we consider science as junk science. For instance, take the myth of RICE to treat injuries. The myth lived for over 30 years before being debunked, but even a decade after it was soundly routed, we still find the advice in the wild. https://thesportjournal.org/article/the-r-i-c-e-protocol-is-a-myth-a-review-and-recommendations/ https://thesportjournal.org/article/the-r-i-c-e-protocol-is-...
- mmooss 2y ago
  > Before we start dishing on sociology as junk science How is sociology involved in this subthread or the OP? In the OP, the researchers have straightened out the issue and the general public ias confused.
- micromacrofoot 2y ago
  oh yeah not about to do that, in these instances one hand washes the other — lots of junk sociology is based on junk science
liuxiansheng 2y ago
It won't be undone because people want it to be true regardless of evidence. The cat (dog?) is out of the bag.
HPsquared 2y ago
Ideology doesn't have to be 100% true to be effective. Goes all the way back to Plato's idea of the "noble lie".
- micromacrofoot 2y ago
  Sometimes doesn't have to be 1% true!

It's stunning how so much of our own behavior, or at least explanations of it, reference what turns out to be almost entirely false conclusions. It could take 100 years to undo.

deepsquirrelnet 2y ago

A more cynical take could be that maybe it fits because we’ve constructed our own captivity or ‘prison conditions’ where this tends to emerge.

zitsarethecure 2y ago
Out of curiosity, what conditions would you describe as prison-like that would drive someone to adopt an "alpha male" lifestyle in the US?
- deepsquirrelnet 2y ago
  > Consider how this plays out in Silicon Valley, where the "move fast and break things" mentality has created a leadership culture that celebrates disruption over sustainability, dominance over collaboration. That’s how the article phrased it. I’m not certain if I agree or not, but I’m not ready to either accept or dismiss it.

readthenotes1 2y ago

Before we start dishing on sociology as junk science, I'd like to point out that a lot of what we consider science as junk science. For instance, take the myth of RICE to treat injuries. The myth lived for over 30 years before being debunked, but even a decade after it was soundly routed, we still find the advice in the wild. https://thesportjournal.org/article/the-r-i-c-e-protocol-is-a-myth-a-review-and-recommendations/ https://thesportjournal.org/article/the-r-i-c-e-protocol-is-...

mmooss 2y ago
> Before we start dishing on sociology as junk science How is sociology involved in this subthread or the OP? In the OP, the researchers have straightened out the issue and the general public ias confused.
micromacrofoot 2y ago
oh yeah not about to do that, in these instances one hand washes the other — lots of junk sociology is based on junk science

liuxiansheng 2y ago

It won't be undone because people want it to be true regardless of evidence. The cat (dog?) is out of the bag.

HPsquared 2y ago

Ideology doesn't have to be 100% true to be effective. Goes all the way back to Plato's idea of the "noble lie".

micromacrofoot 2y ago
Sometimes doesn't have to be 1% true!