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Wouldn't this have showed up in the reports last year when the numbers were actively happening? There's been 1 case this year it says. If the ideology was what

Wouldn't this have showed up in the reports last year when the numbers were actively happening? There's been 1 case this year it says. If the ideology was what you're saying, then wouldn't they want to spread the info and blame it on the "dirty illegals" or whatever?

dartos 2y ago
One might conclude, given how closely the current administration has been following the project 2025 plan that was floating around, that the administration paused functions pending ideological purity checks on key personnel. Ofc, one may conclude anything one wants,
aliasxneo 2y ago
This year has been a rough start for HN. The political commentary is infecting every thread.
- foobarchu 2y ago
  That's because it's an extremely big deal and affects many things discussed here.
  - llm_trw 2y ago
    It's because people now treat parties like they used to treat football teams.
    - mindslight 2y ago
      If you mean avoiding the Party so you don't get beat up for being different, then the analogy checks out.
    - johnnyanmac 2y ago
      I don't care if Jesus himself froze the CDC. It was an o srly hasty action at best and it will unnecessarily cost some lives.
    - foobarchu 2y ago
      This goes way past teams bud. If you don't realize the kind of existential threat trump is posing to millions of people, you haven't paid attention to a single thing he's done since taking office.
  - ty6853 2y ago
    As the federal government expands the stakes get ever higher. What could be overlooked before now becomes fierce debate.
- stouset 2y ago
  It’s almost as if politics impacts many things in the world around us.
- bayarearefugee 2y ago
  I would argue that being rabidly apolitical while a dangerous threat to western democracy has been growing in America for years is the rough part. I'm an old person. I have a leftist bent. I used to get along with many conservatives, I just had different policy viewpoints than they did. What we are seeing now is a completely different political landscape where one of the parties is actively setting up a dynastic plutocracy in the open. FWIW I have a ton of criticism for the "other" party too as an ineffective mess sucking the corporate teet almost as hard, just without the actual proto fascism.
  - aliasxneo 2y ago
    > I would argue that being rabidly apolitical while a dangerous threat to western democracy has been growing in America for years is the rough part. Some of us are just here as technology professionals looking to learn and keep current on the latest trends. There's nothing wrong with that.
    - _DeadFred_ 2y ago
      Some yes, but maybe not you? Because you used the following language yesterday: "Only a few short months ago, I was under constant attack from various public members of the Democratic party for being a white male with center-right views. The vitriol was quite unhinged, really." when asked for specifics you went to '...on CNN for example'.
      - aliasxneo 2y ago
        Do I engage in politics on HN occasionally? Yes. Is it my primary motivation? No. I don't open up HN with the intention of having rigorous political discussions, even though I sometimes fall into them. My comment history, which it seems you only partially perused, demonstrates this to be true. Especially if you go back a year ago before things became politically charged around here. I also don't see what relevance my example has to this conversation. It sounds like you're trying to corner me into a specific label (Republican, maybe?). I guess thanks for proving my point about discussions around here?
- windexh8er 2y ago
  Maybe the political climate is impacting a higher number of topical points that are being discussed on HN. When governments are changing, interfering, and impacting technology you're going to see it crop up more. It's not a "rough start for HN", it's the current climate of the world through the lens of the US.
- shadowgovt 2y ago
  It's hard to do technology when your staff and customers have TB.
- johnnyanmac 2y ago
  Yes. Becsuse this is an issue that will be slower to respond to because of political actions. Do we really want to skirt around the issue?
- matwood 2y ago
  > The political commentary is infecting every thread. Unfortunately politics has infected areas of our lives we took for granted. The stopping of reporting coming out of the CDC/NIH/HHS makes discussing health science articles more challenging. And this is a direct result of the new administration. While this article may not be vaccine related, the new administration wants a known anti-vaxxer to lead the HHS.
weaksauce 2y ago
> then wouldn't they want to spread the info and blame it on the "dirty illegals" or whatever? pretty sure the ideology is to remove every social safety net and service to "prove" government doesn't work and then the robber barons can swoop in and make it a paid service... and make it so the capital class gets to make and save more money as they can afford to buy any of those services that were cut. it's basically vulture economics but at the nation scale. it's not great.
- kevin_thibedeau 2y ago
  > it's not great. Supply side Jesus is just alright.
bannable 2y ago
"Since 2024" means from the beginning of 2025, not "during 2024".
- giantg2 2y ago
  "There has been one so far in 2025."
  - SideQuark 2y ago
    Read the data. There are many more latent cases recorded, and current new cases are not all recorded as the tally lags people sick right now. You keep quoting that part and ignoring the rest of the article and the live data sources linked to it. The text of the article likely wasn’t from yesterday, as the reporter likely went around a week or two, gathered quotes, interviews, then spent some time in editorial revisions.
    - giantg2 2y ago
      Maybe you can link to whatever data you're looking at. The article says one new active case and that the overall number of cases, including latent, are trending down. This is still consistent with this being a bigger deal last year than this year. The KS health data still shows 1 active for this year.
llamaimperative 2y ago
This isn't really an urgent "alert" system per se, more of a knowledge dissemination system. Security postmortems more so than critical security patches. We have good reason to believe it'd show up here given that Kansas's TB situation has had multiple bulletins over the years https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/72/wr/mm7235a4.htm https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/72/wr/mm7235a4.htm https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/73/ss/ss7304a1.htm https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/73/ss/ss7304a1.htm
- enkid 2y ago
  The analogy breaks down in that rate of infection of a disease is historical but very much informs ongoing public health measures that should be taken.
chairmansteve 2y ago
32 active cases actually. 1 new case since January 1st.

dartos 2y ago

One might conclude, given how closely the current administration has been following the project 2025 plan that was floating around, that the administration paused functions pending ideological purity checks on key personnel. Ofc, one may conclude anything one wants,

aliasxneo 2y ago

This year has been a rough start for HN. The political commentary is infecting every thread.

foobarchu 2y ago
That's because it's an extremely big deal and affects many things discussed here.
- llm_trw 2y ago
  It's because people now treat parties like they used to treat football teams.
  - mindslight 2y ago
    If you mean avoiding the Party so you don't get beat up for being different, then the analogy checks out.
  - johnnyanmac 2y ago
    I don't care if Jesus himself froze the CDC. It was an o srly hasty action at best and it will unnecessarily cost some lives.
  - foobarchu 2y ago
    This goes way past teams bud. If you don't realize the kind of existential threat trump is posing to millions of people, you haven't paid attention to a single thing he's done since taking office.
- ty6853 2y ago
  As the federal government expands the stakes get ever higher. What could be overlooked before now becomes fierce debate.
stouset 2y ago
It’s almost as if politics impacts many things in the world around us.
bayarearefugee 2y ago
I would argue that being rabidly apolitical while a dangerous threat to western democracy has been growing in America for years is the rough part. I'm an old person. I have a leftist bent. I used to get along with many conservatives, I just had different policy viewpoints than they did. What we are seeing now is a completely different political landscape where one of the parties is actively setting up a dynastic plutocracy in the open. FWIW I have a ton of criticism for the "other" party too as an ineffective mess sucking the corporate teet almost as hard, just without the actual proto fascism.
- aliasxneo 2y ago
  > I would argue that being rabidly apolitical while a dangerous threat to western democracy has been growing in America for years is the rough part. Some of us are just here as technology professionals looking to learn and keep current on the latest trends. There's nothing wrong with that.
  - _DeadFred_ 2y ago
    Some yes, but maybe not you? Because you used the following language yesterday: "Only a few short months ago, I was under constant attack from various public members of the Democratic party for being a white male with center-right views. The vitriol was quite unhinged, really." when asked for specifics you went to '...on CNN for example'.
    - aliasxneo 2y ago
      Do I engage in politics on HN occasionally? Yes. Is it my primary motivation? No. I don't open up HN with the intention of having rigorous political discussions, even though I sometimes fall into them. My comment history, which it seems you only partially perused, demonstrates this to be true. Especially if you go back a year ago before things became politically charged around here. I also don't see what relevance my example has to this conversation. It sounds like you're trying to corner me into a specific label (Republican, maybe?). I guess thanks for proving my point about discussions around here?
windexh8er 2y ago
Maybe the political climate is impacting a higher number of topical points that are being discussed on HN. When governments are changing, interfering, and impacting technology you're going to see it crop up more. It's not a "rough start for HN", it's the current climate of the world through the lens of the US.
shadowgovt 2y ago
It's hard to do technology when your staff and customers have TB.
johnnyanmac 2y ago
Yes. Becsuse this is an issue that will be slower to respond to because of political actions. Do we really want to skirt around the issue?
matwood 2y ago
> The political commentary is infecting every thread. Unfortunately politics has infected areas of our lives we took for granted. The stopping of reporting coming out of the CDC/NIH/HHS makes discussing health science articles more challenging. And this is a direct result of the new administration. While this article may not be vaccine related, the new administration wants a known anti-vaxxer to lead the HHS.

weaksauce 2y ago

> then wouldn't they want to spread the info and blame it on the "dirty illegals" or whatever? pretty sure the ideology is to remove every social safety net and service to "prove" government doesn't work and then the robber barons can swoop in and make it a paid service... and make it so the capital class gets to make and save more money as they can afford to buy any of those services that were cut. it's basically vulture economics but at the nation scale. it's not great.

kevin_thibedeau 2y ago
> it's not great. Supply side Jesus is just alright.

bannable 2y ago

"Since 2024" means from the beginning of 2025, not "during 2024".

giantg2 2y ago
"There has been one so far in 2025."
- SideQuark 2y ago
  Read the data. There are many more latent cases recorded, and current new cases are not all recorded as the tally lags people sick right now. You keep quoting that part and ignoring the rest of the article and the live data sources linked to it. The text of the article likely wasn’t from yesterday, as the reporter likely went around a week or two, gathered quotes, interviews, then spent some time in editorial revisions.
  - giantg2 2y ago
    Maybe you can link to whatever data you're looking at. The article says one new active case and that the overall number of cases, including latent, are trending down. This is still consistent with this being a bigger deal last year than this year. The KS health data still shows 1 active for this year.

llamaimperative 2y ago

This isn't really an urgent "alert" system per se, more of a knowledge dissemination system. Security postmortems more so than critical security patches. We have good reason to believe it'd show up here given that Kansas's TB situation has had multiple bulletins over the years https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/72/wr/mm7235a4.htm https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/72/wr/mm7235a4.htm https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/73/ss/ss7304a1.htm https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/73/ss/ss7304a1.htm

enkid 2y ago
The analogy breaks down in that rate of infection of a disease is historical but very much informs ongoing public health measures that should be taken.

chairmansteve 2y ago

32 active cases actually. 1 new case since January 1st.