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I want the NVIDIA monopoly to end, but there is no real competition still. * George Hotz has basically given up on AMD: https://x.com/tinygrad/status/17701

I want the NVIDIA monopoly to end, but there is no real competition still. * George Hotz has basically given up on AMD: https://x.com/__tinygrad__/status/1770151484363354195 https://x.com/__tinygrad__/status/1770151484363354195 * Groq can't produce more hardware past their "demo". It seems like they haven't grown capacity in the years since they announced, and they switched to a complete SaaS model and don't even sell hardware anymore. * I dont know enough about MLX, Triton, and JAX,

simonw 2y ago
That George Hotz tweet is from March last year. He's gone back and forth on AMD a bunch more times since then.
- bdangubic 2y ago
  is that good or bad?
  - simonw 2y ago
    Honestly I tried searching his recent tweets for AMD and there was way too much noise in there to figure out his current position!
    - zby 2y ago
      " we are going to move it off AMD to our own or partner silicon. We have developed it to be very portable." https://x.com/__tinygrad__/status/1879617702526087346 https://x.com/__tinygrad__/status/1879617702526087346
      - infecto 2y ago
        Honest question. That sounds more difficult that getting things to play with commodity hardware. Maybe I am oversimplifying it though.
        whizzter 2y ago
        They have their own nn,etc libraries so adapting should be fairly focused and AMD drivers have a hilariously bad reputation historically among people who program GPU's (I've been bitten a couple of times myself by weirdness). I think you should consider it as, if they're trying to avoid Nvidia and make sure their code isn't tied to NVidia-isms, and AMD is troublesome enough for basics the step to customized solutions is small enough to be worthwhile for something even cheaper than AMD.
        infecto 2y ago
        Thanks, I don't have any experience in this realm and this was helpful to digest the problem space.
  - solarkraft 2y ago
    I consider it a good sign that he hasn’t completely given up. But it sure all seems shaky.
- roland35 2y ago
  The same Hotz who lasted like 4 weeks at Twitter after announcing that he'd fix everything? It doesn't really inspire a ton of confidence that he can single handedly take down Nvidia...
bfung 2y ago
It looks like he’s close to having own AMD stack, tweet linked in the article, Jan 15,2025: https://x.com/__tinygrad__/status/1879615316378198516 https://x.com/__tinygrad__/status/1879615316378198516
- saagarjha 2y ago
  $1000 bounty? That's like 2 hours of development time at market rate lol
- htrp 2y ago
  We'll check in again with him in 3 months and he'll still be just 1 piece away.
billconan 2y ago
I also noticed that Groq's Chief Architect now works for NVIDIA. https://research.nvidia.com/person/dennis-abts https://research.nvidia.com/person/dennis-abts

I want the NVIDIA monopoly to end, but there is no real competition still. * George Hotz has basically given up on AMD: https://x.com/__tinygrad__/status/17701

simonw 2y ago

That George Hotz tweet is from March last year. He's gone back and forth on AMD a bunch more times since then.

bdangubic 2y ago
is that good or bad?
- simonw 2y ago
  Honestly I tried searching his recent tweets for AMD and there was way too much noise in there to figure out his current position!
  - zby 2y ago
    " we are going to move it off AMD to our own or partner silicon. We have developed it to be very portable." https://x.com/__tinygrad__/status/1879617702526087346 https://x.com/__tinygrad__/status/1879617702526087346
    - infecto 2y ago
      Honest question. That sounds more difficult that getting things to play with commodity hardware. Maybe I am oversimplifying it though.
      - whizzter 2y ago
        They have their own nn,etc libraries so adapting should be fairly focused and AMD drivers have a hilariously bad reputation historically among people who program GPU's (I've been bitten a couple of times myself by weirdness). I think you should consider it as, if they're trying to avoid Nvidia and make sure their code isn't tied to NVidia-isms, and AMD is troublesome enough for basics the step to customized solutions is small enough to be worthwhile for something even cheaper than AMD.
        infecto 2y ago
        Thanks, I don't have any experience in this realm and this was helpful to digest the problem space.
- solarkraft 2y ago
  I consider it a good sign that he hasn’t completely given up. But it sure all seems shaky.
roland35 2y ago
The same Hotz who lasted like 4 weeks at Twitter after announcing that he'd fix everything? It doesn't really inspire a ton of confidence that he can single handedly take down Nvidia...

bfung 2y ago

It looks like he’s close to having own AMD stack, tweet linked in the article, Jan 15,2025: https://x.com/__tinygrad__/status/1879615316378198516 https://x.com/__tinygrad__/status/1879615316378198516

saagarjha 2y ago
$1000 bounty? That's like 2 hours of development time at market rate lol
htrp 2y ago
We'll check in again with him in 3 months and he'll still be just 1 piece away.

billconan 2y ago

I also noticed that Groq's Chief Architect now works for NVIDIA. https://research.nvidia.com/person/dennis-abts https://research.nvidia.com/person/dennis-abts