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"Quiet quitting" as a phrase is just the latest bigcorp propaganda attempt to trick workers into doing more for free, now that previous attempts like "company l
by crooked-v 2y ago
"Quiet quitting" as a phrase is just the latest bigcorp propaganda attempt to trick workers into doing more for free, now that previous attempts like "company loyalty" are dead and buried.
- christofosho 2y agoCompanies need to set the bar and uphold it. Saying people are "quiet quitting" is synonymous with saying, "we don't know how to set and uphold standards". Putting the blame on the employee instead of having clear guidelines (i.e. making it a performance problem) is an unfortunate scapegoat used to shift the blame and accountability. A job is a contract. Ain't just one sided. Edit: Amending to mention that there are companies that do quite well at upholding standards. To those, thank you for trying.
- baazaa 2y agoSame with the WFH debates. 'We're going to force workers into the office and hope they do some work out of boredom' is taken as a serious strategy because the average manager is mind-bogglingly incompetent. If you know how productive people are (i.e. your managers aren't morons), and you have incentives set-up (e.g. pay, promotions and hiring/firing is dictated by productivity), then there's no problem to solve. Workers who are more productive in the office will be forced into the office to meet standards, you don't need blanket rules.
- steveBK123 2y agoOh and the penny pinchers have consistently under-leased space and forced the worst setting imaginable on most of us - open floorpans. So RTO is disruptive, distracting and pointless. My small team of 3-4 will occasionally go to the office when someone is in town, ask for a room/office get denied and assigned random open floorpan seats. Usually sat next to the interns or the Helpdesk or some other noisy group we don't interact with at all. Often they can't even find contiguous seating so we are sat hodgepodge amongst people we don't work with. Would be better to go to a WeWork or something. They really think we are cattle.
- steveBK123 2y agoOf course after this post, no joke I go into the office last week and the reservable open desks were in the supply closet with broken chairs and monitors. Amazing.
- llm_trw 2y agoI have a $30k computer at home. Are you going to give me one like that at work? If not I'm less productive there and only showing up to polish your ego. My corporate escorts rates are higher than my working rates accordingly.
- bshacklett 2y agoI'm genuinely curious as to what kind of work requires a $30k computer for productivity. High end CAD?
- llm_trw 2y agoML workloads where I can do a few epochs locally to see where the data is going wrong before running the full training run in the data center.
- spacemanspiff01 2y agoWhat companies allow you to do work on a personal computer? That seems like a recipe for disaster...
- llm_trw 2y agoOnes without a straitjacket of bureaucracy. It's not like I can't exfiltrate all their data with a python script and a web cam.
- ghaff 2y agoI never had an issue with using my own computer at work. And didn't even want to use a corporate computer.
- t-writescode 2y agoCompanies also control things like anti-viruses, etc, on their work machines. It's not just about concerns over stealing information.
- A4ET8a8uTh0_v2 2y agoThe other day my manager straight up told me he doesn't understand what I am spending time with issue X for and why I even put it in my scrum meeting ( he assigned it me; he really should know what it actually entails, but clearly doesm't know ). I will be honest, I got pissy and simply removed it from my todo list, will let it fail and I will let it be assigned to me again. I am now George Constanza and embrace the sheer corporate managery. I am tired of this.
- malfist 2y agoJust like "we're all family here" (until they hear wall street rewarding layoffs). Or "nobody wants to work anymore" which you can find in newspapers all the way back to the 1700s
- steveBK123 2y ago"nobody wants to work anymore" is something they've literally found in greek writing back 2000 years haha.
- labster 2y agoWe’re all family, but the family is undergoing some restructuring. So we’re going to have to let some of our poorest performing sons and daughters go. I’m sure you understand, kiddo. Please leave all family property at security. Also if you ever come back to the family home, we will be calling the police, as you are no child of mine, not any more. Good luck!
- userbinator 2y ago"Work to rule" is what it used to be called.
- ikr678 2y agoThey had to invent a new term because they didnt want it associated with union activity.
- alkonaut 2y agoYeah I think it says a lot about (possibly US?) office culture if ”not doing anything more than expected” is labeled ”quitting”.
- crote 2y agoCounter it by calling it "quiet firing" when they don't treat their workers right.
- Lio 2y agoI’d just call that “constructive dismissal”. Which is legally dubious in a lot of places. Some of the return to office drives look a bit like constructive dismissal to me. i.e. an attempt to encourage workers to leave without making them redundant by many conditions unpleasant.
- niceice 2y agoWhy would bigcorps want employees to know that faking work while getting paid is even a thing?
- Ferret7446 2y agoI'm pretty sure "quiet quitting" was coined by the employees, as a fad on TikTok et al.