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Render raises $80M in Series C financing
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- tadeegan 2y agoGoogle will buy them to reduce chance of legitimate competition probably…
- srameshc 2y agoWhat customer base will Render bring to them ? Google directly competes with AWS and Azure and it need the big enterprise customers if any .
- 9283409232 2y agoCompanies will make acquisitions as a means of preventing competition. It might not be about bringing a new customer base but protecting the one you already have.
- XorNot 2y agoAlso all those services basically just sit back and wait till a company gets big enough to have in-house SevOps/SRE/whatever and the inevitable cost optimising migration gets demanded.
- scirob 2y agoor maybe Salesforce will buy them as they have an appetite for breaking nice things
- sebmellen 2y agoWhat differentiates Render from Railway and Fly.io?
- tonyhart7 2y agoI use railway but have experience on both render and fly io (not to a degree of railway, so take it as grain of salt) just an UI??? for the most part like deploy postgress, deploy Go webserver etc like 80% of the work is SAME, they don't have moat
- anurag 2y agoFully managed Postgres with high availability and point-in-time recovery is a big reason developers choose Render.
- pm90 2y agoIs this a better heroku? My experience is that anything outside of the standard process for deploying apps is actively frowned upon by everyone except startups that need to move extremely quickly to create PoCs. So unless this platform is much much cheaper than the public clouds it seems like a limited market.
- gkoberger 2y agoYes, and I say this as someone who used Heroku for over a decade and recently switched to Render. The Heroku platform has recently gone downhill. There’s a ton of downtime, minimal improvements, no communication via their status page, and incredibly bad support. They once shut off GitHub deploys for months with no explanation, because of a security incident they seemingly couldn’t fix… we had no way to deploy! Heroku was amazing, but it’s dying rapidly. Render isn’t a huge departure from Heroku, but it’s solid and the team is very responsive.
- latchkey 2y agoIf this tells you anything, the CEO of Heroku (who was ex AWS), just left for Nvidia. I asked him directly before he left if he was interested in GPU compute and his only answer was basically... "only what it is available on AWS"... which is where all their stuff is hosted now. https://techcrunch.com/2024/11/14/heroku-ceo-bob-wise-departs/ https://techcrunch.com/2024/11/14/heroku-ceo-bob-wise-depart...
- gkoberger 2y agoOh thank god. I had the displeasure of meeting with him once, and it was so bad that when we hung up I had our team to start planning a migration off of Heroku. The crux of the issue was that he told me that he philosophically didn’t believe Heroku should put up status notifications about downtime or performance issues until AFTER they fully understood the problem and had a fix. (My theory was actually that no engineers worked there and they didn’t have on-call rotation anymore)
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- tyre 2y agoI gotta say, reading this I have no idea what Render actually does or how it's different from AWS or Heroku. They say they've threaded the needle between the two to provide a new way of deploying infra, but what that is…who knows! Naturally a paragraph on AI. At some point companies lose the ability to say, "We are X. It used to be that Y, which had issues of A, B, C. Instead, X does Z, so $USERS can now D, E, F." Where the letters are specific (not empty words like "innovative"). As they grow, these companies add additional products, which is one reason I think they lose this. That's okay! Add one or two sentences (max) that say, "Once we solved Z, we kept building to offer L, M, and N. We expanded from serving $USERS to supporting $EXPANDED_USERS who need O and P." It's kind of wild how rare that clarity of communication is. Stripe still does a pretty good job despite the _huge_ range of products, complexity, customer profiles, abstractions, and interfaces. You can definitely tell when companies are either parroting what they've read other splash pages say or are using LLMs to say a bunch of empty platitudes. Good writing is really fking hard.
- anurag 2y agoHello fellow Xtripe! This blog post wasn't meant to focus on differentiation, but you might find this useful: https://render.com/docs/render-vs-heroku-comparison https://render.com/docs/render-vs-heroku-comparison
- JTyQZSnP3cQGa8B 2y agoIt's not helping me. All I understand is that you provide some stuff for Docker, static web sites, and databases. That's good, but it seems very specific. So specific that, as a former devops, I don't understand why you could be useful to me or why I would need your help.
- anurag 2y agoWe need to improve our product marketing! Render focuses exclusively on application engineers who need to run things in the cloud without worrying about devops; this also means we don't focus on the needs of devops engineers.
- infecto 2y agoJust in response to some of the other comments here. Render has been around for a bit, I always saw it as a better Heroku. Not so sure they need differentiate themselves, they have been around for a while. IMO they are a nice fit because AFAIK they have not invested any new paradigms and really built it up as a Heroku 2.0.
- mrits 2y agoelb,ec2,s3 is still my favorite
- adenta 2y agoI’ve been pretty vocal about using http://kamal-deploy.org/ http://kamal-deploy.org/ more and more, and Render less. Kamal really is fantastic, PaaS niceties w/o the PaaS tax.
- jasoncartwright 2y agoFan of these PaaS-like tools on BYO servers. See also Coolify, Dokploy. Best of both worlds.
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- braden-lk 2y agoI run all of LegendKeeper's infrastructure on Render, save for a few serverless functions. It's been convenient; I rarely think about infra at all anymore.
- anurag 2y ago(I'm Render's founder) What should we build next, HN?
- raywu 2y agoCongrats on the raise and building something people love! If I could make a suggestion - make it clear you are the founder of Render instead of using these parentheses “(Render founder)”!
- rvz 2y agoBuy Replicate [0]. [0] https://replicate.com/ https://replicate.com/
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- scirob 2y agolol while your at it could you please also buy https://rendernetwork.com/ https://rendernetwork.com/ just becuase the name conflict gets confusing :)
- christophilus 2y agoWe currently use Render, Wasabi, and BunnyCDN. It’s a great combo. If you offered a low-price object store with a CDN layer, that would be swank.
- bambax 2y agoYou could start by explaining what you do. I still have no idea (better Heroku?) and judging by the comments here I'm not alone...
- theonething 2y agoThey're a PaaS provider. Why the hell is that so hard to understand?
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- duxup 2y agoAs an end customer these things area always mixed feelings. I'd rather hear that the company I use is profitable and sustainable.
- anurag 2y agoWe can choose to be profitable now, but we're choosing to reinvest profits into building for the long term. Either way, not going anywhere!
- wiley1454 2y agoNice. ...I remember when they won TC Startup battlefield a couple of years back. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=J4Vn64_CnDg# https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=J4Vn64_CnDg#
- asim 2y agoCongratulations to the team at Render. I'm not a user but good to see some competition in the cloud space. DigitalOcean was the last great developer focused effort IMO. Things at a higher level helped various communities but nothing has really attempted to compete with cloud providers themselves. So good on you and keep going.
- anurag 2y agoCheers!
- lvl155 2y agoCongrats to the Render team. One of my favorite products.
- anurag 2y agoThanks!
- thundergolfer 2y ago> we’ve surpassed 2 million developers ... 100,000+ developers who sign up for Render every month There's something like 2 million software engineers in the entire USA. There's no way their penetration is significant (>25%) in the USA, so where are these developers coming in from? India, China, LATAM?
- solarkraft 2y agoI for one am German (and deploying using the free tier, which probably inflates the number). I can easily imagine the free tier being more popular im lower-income countries, there are a bunch of stories about indians being especially savy about free offerings.
- vishrajiv 2y agoBeen on Render for a few months now. Its main value prop is clean UX for infra, which ended up mattering a lot more than I thought. AWS generally induces way more cognitive load than I care to give it (except for S3). Congrats on the raise!
- anurag 2y agoThanks!
- harrisonjackson 2y agoRender is great. Very easy to launch any docker image, script, stack etc. You can templatize any repo for a 1-button deploy with a render.yaml and a link in the readme. More products offering "self-hosted" should do this.
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- mercurialsolo 2y agoWhat are some companies or apps or teams which are fully powered by render cloud?
- mercurialsolo 2y agoWhat are some companies or apps or teams which are fully powered by render cloud? Are they b2b or b2c ?
- czhu12 2y agoI’ve been trying to build an open source clone of render for the past year, that is portable across basically all cloud providers that offer managed kubernetes, (which is basically everyone) Render is an improvement on pricing from Heroku but is still massively more expensive than raw VPS instances such as the ones you can buy on digital ocean, and it’s much less flexible. https://canine.sh https://canine.sh
- matus_congrady 2y agoShameless plug: at https://stacktape.com https://stacktape.com, we also do "Heroku-like PaaS experience" built on top of AWS. But we deploy directly to our user's AWS account.