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Obviously technology will continue to affect society as it has today and always had. I don’t know why people here are freaking out. It’s how it always has and w

Obviously technology will continue to affect society as it has today and always had. I don’t know why people here are freaking out. It’s how it always has and will be. But you’re missing the key phrase - “best behavior”. This is the political part that gets fought over.

rhinoceraptor 2y ago
Every important social reform in history has violated unjust laws. Do you want to live in a society where social reform is not possible?
- nemo44x 2y ago
  Important to who? What specifically has been good about them and what was unjust about which specific laws? Sounds like victor writing history. I want to live in a society where bad behavior isn’t incentivized.
  - pseudalopex 2y ago
    > Important to who? What specifically has been good about them and what was unjust about which specific laws? Sounds like victor writing history. the wise man bowed his head solemnly and spoke: "theres actually zero difference between good & bad things. you imbecile. you fucking moron"[1] I think you know what is unjust about slavery. Dictatorship. Apartheid. Disenfranchisement of women. > I want to live in a society where bad behavior isn’t incentivized. Oppression is bad behavior. Protest is not. [1] https://x.com/dril/status/473265809079693312 https://x.com/dril/status/473265809079693312
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    - nemo44x 2y ago
      Yeah that’s my point - bad behavior is what’s agreed upon to be bad. Hopefully AI can disincentivize the things you point out as bad. That’s the politics of it.
    - add-sub-mul-div 2y ago
      That's one of my favorite quotes. Our society has become so both-sides-pilled that one side being right about an issue is no longer even theoretically possible. No matter how correct a conclusion might be, it would get dismissed as cable news echo-chambery. It would be called a derangement syndrome. It's like people believe there's a fixed law of the universe, a law of conservation of debate. All debates will always exist in equilibrium, no matter where the fulcrum meanders over time.

rhinoceraptor 2y ago

Every important social reform in history has violated unjust laws. Do you want to live in a society where social reform is not possible?

nemo44x 2y ago
Important to who? What specifically has been good about them and what was unjust about which specific laws? Sounds like victor writing history. I want to live in a society where bad behavior isn’t incentivized.
- pseudalopex 2y ago
  > Important to who? What specifically has been good about them and what was unjust about which specific laws? Sounds like victor writing history. the wise man bowed his head solemnly and spoke: "theres actually zero difference between good & bad things. you imbecile. you fucking moron"[1] I think you know what is unjust about slavery. Dictatorship. Apartheid. Disenfranchisement of women. > I want to live in a society where bad behavior isn’t incentivized. Oppression is bad behavior. Protest is not. [1] https://x.com/dril/status/473265809079693312 https://x.com/dril/status/473265809079693312
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  - nemo44x 2y ago
    Yeah that’s my point - bad behavior is what’s agreed upon to be bad. Hopefully AI can disincentivize the things you point out as bad. That’s the politics of it.
  - add-sub-mul-div 2y ago
    That's one of my favorite quotes. Our society has become so both-sides-pilled that one side being right about an issue is no longer even theoretically possible. No matter how correct a conclusion might be, it would get dismissed as cable news echo-chambery. It would be called a derangement syndrome. It's like people believe there's a fixed law of the universe, a law of conservation of debate. All debates will always exist in equilibrium, no matter where the fulcrum meanders over time.