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Bloomberg Announces Effort to Ensure U.S. Honors Paris Agreement Commitments

46 points by geox 2y ago

jeffgreco 2y ago
If the new ruling regime is intent that the federal government is meant to be feckless and we are to be beholden to oligarchs, then I guess I am glad this oligarchs is doing this.
- Trasmatta 2y ago
  As far as oligarchs go, you can do a lot worse than Michael Bloomberg I guess
  - philipov 2y ago
    Yeah, it could have been Elon Musk oh wait
    - DeepSeaTortoise 2y ago
      TBH, Musk seems pretty decent. He could have easily become wealthy via industries like oil, insurance or hotels. Instead he's dumping hia money into projects, which he thinks are visionary, even if they're likely to go belly up. Like (self-driving) electric vehicles, vacuum trains, massive scale satellite internet, factory automation, grid-scale batteries, UBI, free speech, the X Æ A-12 project, ... Not even thunderf00t believes he's malicious and it's hard to find anyone more obsessed
      - philipov 2y ago
        That's what I thought 10 years ago, and then he started dumping every trash thought he had on twitter and making nazi salutes.
      - qnleigh 2y ago
        Yes to electric cars and grid scale storage. To the Hyperloop, there is a case to be made that he mostly promoted that to kill public transportation projects, which he tends to oppose. https://www.disconnect.blog/p/the-hyperloop-was-always-a-scam https://www.disconnect.blog/p/the-hyperloop-was-always-a-sca...
cringeminimike 2y ago
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amarcheschi 2y ago
In the same day as https://www.dol.gov/newsroom/releases/osec/osec20250124 https://www.dol.gov/newsroom/releases/osec/osec20250124 I'm not American but wow, the country is corroding itself from inside
- freeqaz 2y ago
  "Executive Order 11246, signed by President Lyndon B. Johnson in 1965, prohibits employment discrimination by federal contractors based on race, color, religion, sex, or national origin, and requires them to take affirmative action to ensure equal employment opportunities. It aims to promote non-discriminatory practices in hiring and employment for organizations that do business with the U.S. government."
  - NotYourLawyer 2y ago
    >prohibiting discrimination >requiring affirmative action Which is it? It can’t be both. (It’s the latter, duh.)
    - deleted 2y ago
      [deleted]
- pjc50 2y ago
  "anti-woke" has become a destructive mind virus of its own.
- api 2y ago
  After witnessing year after year of both old school Republicans and Democrats being tone deaf and incompetent, I’ve come to the view that MAGA is just filling the vacuum created by the collapse of an entire generation of the American political power structure. MAGA and/or the alt-right just happened to be a movement that was in the right time and had enough momentum to step in. Had things gone differently it could have been a hard left movement. This happens in countries from time to time. In China there’s a whole history of dynastic collapse and renewal going back thousands of years. It tends to be a shitshow for a while until a new political reality takes hold. It will not be unipolar. MAGA only got at best half the vote, and half the country didn’t even vote, so really they’re at best a quarter to a third of the population. Huge open niches are out there for a competently run non-tone-deaf centrist (aka actually conservative) party and stuff on the left. Maybe actual libertarianism too, but not using that name since that’s been taken by wackos for a long time. I worry in the short to medium term for marginalized groups in America, important work happening in America like Starship (especially as Elon spirals), and anyone living in a state like Taiwan, Ukraine, South Korea, etc. that depends in part on US support to maintain its integrity. Other large states will probably be doing some land grabbing. The US might too depending on how things play out. It will be a period of instability.
matthewdgreen 2y ago
The amazing thing is that this should be a slam dunk. Wind, solar and batteries are getting radically cheaper. In the first half of 2024, something like 75% of Europe's electricity was low-carbon (50% renewables, 25% nuclear.) China's at something like 44% low-carbon for the first part of 2024. The tech is getting so much cheaper and it isn't even really about "low carbon" anymore so much as it is about "cheap abundant electricity." Batteries are down to $66/kWh in China, for actual costed-out BESS projects. https://www.ess-news.com/2024/12/09/powerchina-receives-bids-for-16-gwh-bess-tender-with-average-price-of-66-5-kwh/ https://www.ess-news.com/2024/12/09/powerchina-receives-bids... The nations that win this race will dominate the future. From a geopolitical perspective you either run this race to a future with abundant energy, or you become a second-tier power.
- liontwist 2y ago
  If it’s such a great cost savings what encouragement is needed? And if it’s still down the road, why couldn’t it be adopted when it is cheaper?
  - esafak 2y ago
    Big oil.
  - prettyStandard 2y ago
    I know right? I've never heard of large projects needing upfront capital!
    - liontwist 2y ago
      American business is very good at financing upfront capital commitments with easy to calculate returns.
  - vlovich123 2y ago
    Remember the days America demonstrated leadership, where we got to the moon rather than waiting for someone else to figure out how to get costs down or how we lead the effort to solve the hole in the ozone layer? Pepperidge Farms remembers.
integricho 2y ago
The US is running itself into the ground, sadly these initiatives will not stop it.
- blased 2y ago
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  - subsection1h 2y ago
    In relation to public health issues, which are my focus, the worst states are red states. For example, the infant mortality rates[1] in many red states are comparable to those in developing nations, which is almost funny given that the leaders of these states constantly market themselves as being "pro-life". The residents of red states should consider taking some of the money they allocate to football and redirecting it to keeping their babies alive. [1] https://www.kff.org/other/state-indicator/infant-death-rate/ https://www.kff.org/other/state-indicator/infant-death-rate/
    - deleted 2y ago
      [deleted]
- nathanaldensr 2y ago
  "The US" is not a monolith; you're just using ambiguous collectives to cover for your political bias.
  - integricho 2y ago
    I don't live in the US, and am not a citizen, this is just my outsider observation based on what I am seeing is happening there. Utter-complete chaos.
63 2y ago
I'm obviously approaching this from an extremely biased perspective, but in the wake of seeing so many people around me helplessly complaining about recent negative changes in government, it's very comforting to see some people getting organized and trying to do something to help. In general, I hope that more people are spurred into action than ever to actually make a change in the world rather than just reposting conspiracy theories and prophecies of doom on social media, crying that no one is doing anything.
oldpersonintx 2y ago
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46 points by geox 2y ago

If the new ruling regime is intent that the federal government is meant to be feckless and we are to be beholden to oligarchs, then I guess I am glad this oligarchs is doing this.

Trasmatta 2y ago
As far as oligarchs go, you can do a lot worse than Michael Bloomberg I guess
- philipov 2y ago
  Yeah, it could have been Elon Musk oh wait
  - DeepSeaTortoise 2y ago
    TBH, Musk seems pretty decent. He could have easily become wealthy via industries like oil, insurance or hotels. Instead he's dumping hia money into projects, which he thinks are visionary, even if they're likely to go belly up. Like (self-driving) electric vehicles, vacuum trains, massive scale satellite internet, factory automation, grid-scale batteries, UBI, free speech, the X Æ A-12 project, ... Not even thunderf00t believes he's malicious and it's hard to find anyone more obsessed
    - philipov 2y ago
      That's what I thought 10 years ago, and then he started dumping every trash thought he had on twitter and making nazi salutes.
    - qnleigh 2y ago
      Yes to electric cars and grid scale storage. To the Hyperloop, there is a case to be made that he mostly promoted that to kill public transportation projects, which he tends to oppose. https://www.disconnect.blog/p/the-hyperloop-was-always-a-scam https://www.disconnect.blog/p/the-hyperloop-was-always-a-sca...

cringeminimike 2y ago

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amarcheschi 2y ago

In the same day as https://www.dol.gov/newsroom/releases/osec/osec20250124 https://www.dol.gov/newsroom/releases/osec/osec20250124 I'm not American but wow, the country is corroding itself from inside

freeqaz 2y ago
"Executive Order 11246, signed by President Lyndon B. Johnson in 1965, prohibits employment discrimination by federal contractors based on race, color, religion, sex, or national origin, and requires them to take affirmative action to ensure equal employment opportunities. It aims to promote non-discriminatory practices in hiring and employment for organizations that do business with the U.S. government."
- NotYourLawyer 2y ago
  >prohibiting discrimination >requiring affirmative action Which is it? It can’t be both. (It’s the latter, duh.)
  - deleted 2y ago
    [deleted]
pjc50 2y ago
"anti-woke" has become a destructive mind virus of its own.
api 2y ago
After witnessing year after year of both old school Republicans and Democrats being tone deaf and incompetent, I’ve come to the view that MAGA is just filling the vacuum created by the collapse of an entire generation of the American political power structure. MAGA and/or the alt-right just happened to be a movement that was in the right time and had enough momentum to step in. Had things gone differently it could have been a hard left movement. This happens in countries from time to time. In China there’s a whole history of dynastic collapse and renewal going back thousands of years. It tends to be a shitshow for a while until a new political reality takes hold. It will not be unipolar. MAGA only got at best half the vote, and half the country didn’t even vote, so really they’re at best a quarter to a third of the population. Huge open niches are out there for a competently run non-tone-deaf centrist (aka actually conservative) party and stuff on the left. Maybe actual libertarianism too, but not using that name since that’s been taken by wackos for a long time. I worry in the short to medium term for marginalized groups in America, important work happening in America like Starship (especially as Elon spirals), and anyone living in a state like Taiwan, Ukraine, South Korea, etc. that depends in part on US support to maintain its integrity. Other large states will probably be doing some land grabbing. The US might too depending on how things play out. It will be a period of instability.

matthewdgreen 2y ago

The amazing thing is that this should be a slam dunk. Wind, solar and batteries are getting radically cheaper. In the first half of 2024, something like 75% of Europe's electricity was low-carbon (50% renewables, 25% nuclear.) China's at something like 44% low-carbon for the first part of 2024. The tech is getting so much cheaper and it isn't even really about "low carbon" anymore so much as it is about "cheap abundant electricity." Batteries are down to $66/kWh in China, for actual costed-out BESS projects. https://www.ess-news.com/2024/12/09/powerchina-receives-bids-for-16-gwh-bess-tender-with-average-price-of-66-5-kwh/ https://www.ess-news.com/2024/12/09/powerchina-receives-bids... The nations that win this race will dominate the future. From a geopolitical perspective you either run this race to a future with abundant energy, or you become a second-tier power.

liontwist 2y ago
If it’s such a great cost savings what encouragement is needed? And if it’s still down the road, why couldn’t it be adopted when it is cheaper?
- esafak 2y ago
  Big oil.
- prettyStandard 2y ago
  I know right? I've never heard of large projects needing upfront capital!
  - liontwist 2y ago
    American business is very good at financing upfront capital commitments with easy to calculate returns.
- vlovich123 2y ago
  Remember the days America demonstrated leadership, where we got to the moon rather than waiting for someone else to figure out how to get costs down or how we lead the effort to solve the hole in the ozone layer? Pepperidge Farms remembers.

integricho 2y ago

The US is running itself into the ground, sadly these initiatives will not stop it.

blased 2y ago
[flagged]
- subsection1h 2y ago
  In relation to public health issues, which are my focus, the worst states are red states. For example, the infant mortality rates[1] in many red states are comparable to those in developing nations, which is almost funny given that the leaders of these states constantly market themselves as being "pro-life". The residents of red states should consider taking some of the money they allocate to football and redirecting it to keeping their babies alive. [1] https://www.kff.org/other/state-indicator/infant-death-rate/ https://www.kff.org/other/state-indicator/infant-death-rate/
  - deleted 2y ago
    [deleted]
nathanaldensr 2y ago
"The US" is not a monolith; you're just using ambiguous collectives to cover for your political bias.
- integricho 2y ago
  I don't live in the US, and am not a citizen, this is just my outsider observation based on what I am seeing is happening there. Utter-complete chaos.

63 2y ago

I'm obviously approaching this from an extremely biased perspective, but in the wake of seeing so many people around me helplessly complaining about recent negative changes in government, it's very comforting to see some people getting organized and trying to do something to help. In general, I hope that more people are spurred into action than ever to actually make a change in the world rather than just reposting conspiracy theories and prophecies of doom on social media, crying that no one is doing anything.

oldpersonintx 2y ago

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