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by buckle8017 2y ago

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davkan 2y ago
> Blame them. No I’m going to blame the people reducing accessibility for disabled Americans via executive order.
- smashah 2y ago
  Smart move. Blame the ones with the power doing the action. What a novel concept in this day and age. Thank you.
tomlockwood 2y ago
You got a single verifiable example of this?
- anonfordays 2y ago
  Yes: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42828004 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42828004
freejazz 2y ago
I find it interesting that this use of racism is passed off without concern but it would be uncool to call someone here a racist. I don't really see the difference. All that being said, they seem like similar principles to me, but I'm not the one throwing around what's racist, and based on your use of it, I guess you'd disagree.
- smashah 2y ago
  The venn diagram of racists and ableists is 1 single egg.
griomnib 2y ago
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- dang 2y ago
  Please don't respond to a bad comment by breaking the site guidelines yourself. That only makes things worse. Also, you crossed badly into personal attack here. Please don't do that on HN, regardless of how wrong someone is or you feel they are. You may not owe people who you feel are losers better, but you owe this community better if you're participating in it. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
  - griomnib 2y ago
    That’s fair, you’re right. In my defense, I’ve been advocating for accessibility in computing for over 20 years, and reading the original post really enraged me as it goes against all I stand for, hence reacting too strongly here.
dang 2y ago
Could you please stop posting unsubstantive comments and flamebait? You've unfortunately been doing it repeatedly. It's not what this site is for, and destroys what it is for. If you wouldn't mind reviewing https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and taking the intended spirit of the site more to heart, we'd be grateful.
- buckle8017 2y ago
  The federal bureaucracy has been making moves for months to prevent Trump from effectively changing policy[0]. Moving ADA protected accessibility concerns into the literal DEI departments (I don't mean individual people) is clearly part of that attempt to "harden" themselves from executive orders and top down policy changes. Indeed the ATF has just blatantly violated the executive order ending DEI programs[1]. Ultimately it's the bureaucracy using accessibility as a shield who are responsible for it being attacked. What I say is certainly... pithy but I take exception with saying any of it is un-substantive or flamebait. [0] https://www.cnn.com/2024/12/22/politics/resistance-trump-liberal-groups/index.html https://www.cnn.com/2024/12/22/politics/resistance-trump-lib... [1] https://www.msn.com/en-us/politics/government/atf-accused-of-circumventing-trump-order-to-place-dei-staff-on-paid-leave/ar-AA1xNG2J https://www.msn.com/en-us/politics/government/atf-accused-of...
  - dang 2y ago
    You didn't include any of that information above—you just made a denunciatory flamewar comment. That's what we're asking you not to do. If you had posted this later comment originally, it would have been fine, or almost fine—it's probably still too much of a political battle post to be completely fine.

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davkan 2y ago

> Blame them. No I’m going to blame the people reducing accessibility for disabled Americans via executive order.

smashah 2y ago
Smart move. Blame the ones with the power doing the action. What a novel concept in this day and age. Thank you.

tomlockwood 2y ago

You got a single verifiable example of this?

anonfordays 2y ago
Yes: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42828004 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42828004

freejazz 2y ago

I find it interesting that this use of racism is passed off without concern but it would be uncool to call someone here a racist. I don't really see the difference. All that being said, they seem like similar principles to me, but I'm not the one throwing around what's racist, and based on your use of it, I guess you'd disagree.

smashah 2y ago
The venn diagram of racists and ableists is 1 single egg.

griomnib 2y ago

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dang 2y ago
Please don't respond to a bad comment by breaking the site guidelines yourself. That only makes things worse. Also, you crossed badly into personal attack here. Please don't do that on HN, regardless of how wrong someone is or you feel they are. You may not owe people who you feel are losers better, but you owe this community better if you're participating in it. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
- griomnib 2y ago
  That’s fair, you’re right. In my defense, I’ve been advocating for accessibility in computing for over 20 years, and reading the original post really enraged me as it goes against all I stand for, hence reacting too strongly here.

dang 2y ago

Could you please stop posting unsubstantive comments and flamebait? You've unfortunately been doing it repeatedly. It's not what this site is for, and destroys what it is for. If you wouldn't mind reviewing https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and taking the intended spirit of the site more to heart, we'd be grateful.

buckle8017 2y ago
The federal bureaucracy has been making moves for months to prevent Trump from effectively changing policy[0]. Moving ADA protected accessibility concerns into the literal DEI departments (I don't mean individual people) is clearly part of that attempt to "harden" themselves from executive orders and top down policy changes. Indeed the ATF has just blatantly violated the executive order ending DEI programs[1]. Ultimately it's the bureaucracy using accessibility as a shield who are responsible for it being attacked. What I say is certainly... pithy but I take exception with saying any of it is un-substantive or flamebait. [0] https://www.cnn.com/2024/12/22/politics/resistance-trump-liberal-groups/index.html https://www.cnn.com/2024/12/22/politics/resistance-trump-lib... [1] https://www.msn.com/en-us/politics/government/atf-accused-of-circumventing-trump-order-to-place-dei-staff-on-paid-leave/ar-AA1xNG2J https://www.msn.com/en-us/politics/government/atf-accused-of...
- dang 2y ago
  You didn't include any of that information above—you just made a denunciatory flamewar comment. That's what we're asking you not to do. If you had posted this later comment originally, it would have been fine, or almost fine—it's probably still too much of a political battle post to be completely fine.