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That seems reasonable, because: 1. Trump's declared "delay" is executive overreach and arguably unconstitutional, especially considering how the law[0] is expl
by Terr_ 2y ago
That seems reasonable, because:
1. Trump's declared "delay" is executive overreach and arguably unconstitutional, especially considering how the law[0] is explicit and even contains its own provision for a time-extension that TikTok has refused to exercise.
2. If you break a black-letter law because Trump suggested he'd somehow prevent the government from ever prosecuting you... Well, you're handing a crook a weapon he can use to extort you for favors later. Bad idea.
3. The PR cost of removing the app has already happened, it makes no sense to bring it back and then get dinged a second time removing it 75-or-whatever days later.
[0] Whether that particular law itself should have been ruled unconstitutional is a separate debate.
- lesuorac 2y agoSurely, Trump can just preemptive pardon any App Store that breaks or will-break the law?
- Aloisius 2y agoYou can't pardon future actions.
- snypher 2y agoSure you can, maybe? https://www.thehindu.com/news/international/joe-biden-has-issued-preemptive-pardons-what-are-they/article69120032.ece https://www.thehindu.com/news/international/joe-biden-has-is...
- Aloisius 2y agoThose are for past actions of the person being pardoned, not future actions.
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- ianburrell 2y agoOnly people can be pardoned. Only people can be charged with crimes. Companies can only be fined.
- speakfreely 2y agoSee "corporate criminal liability".
- tantalor 2y ago"Corporate personhood" is a real thing people believe
- asdffdasy 2y agoto add color, here's the text on the popup on android the day it was back: Welcome back! Thanks for your patience and support. As a result of President Trump's efforts, TikTok is back in the U.S.! You can continue to create, share, and discover all the things you love on TikTok.
- dangus 2y agoUnlike TikTok, Apple has no monetary incentive to break the law. There is no upside for them. Apple makes an insignificant amount of revenue from TikTok. It isn’t much of an in-app purchase machine, and they had no qualms about banning a huge one like Fortnite over a much less legally binding issue.
- chii 2y agoNot only that, the fact is, the tiktok ban has a penalty attached that is about $5000/user, so the risk is approx $85 billion dollars worth of fines. This video outlines why these app stores will not reinstate it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UGXU46rMtRE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UGXU46rMtRE , regardless of what trump promises verbally.
- quadragenarian 2y ago170M active users means 850 billion dollars or almost a trillion.That’s an enormous sum.
- csomar 2y agoThe question is: Can Tiktok sue for damages. But given your calculations, Tiktok damages will be far lower than getting fined by the state. Maybe the lawyers did their math.
- HelloMcFly 2y agoApple is complying with the intent and letter of the law of the land, passed by Congress, signed by the President, upheld in legality by the Supreme Court. I don't see how Apple has any liability to Tiktok here.
- oneeyedpigeon 2y agoAlso, doesn't this only prevent new users from downloading the app? And maybe existing ones from updating it. Everyone who would be up in arms can continue using it, those excluded already don't (yet) know what the fuss is about.