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It appears this basically locks out Google, Amazon and Meta. Why are we declaring OpenAI as the winner? This is like declaring Netscape the winner before the du
by lvl155 2y ago
It appears this basically locks out Google, Amazon and Meta. Why are we declaring OpenAI as the winner? This is like declaring Netscape the winner before the dust settled. Having the govt involved in this manner can’t be a good thing.
- DonHopkins 2y agoBecause it's free to play, pay to win, from now on.
- OutOfHere 2y agoI am not sure if OpenAI will be the winner despite this investment. Currently, I see various DeepSeek AI models as offering much more bang for the buck at a vastly cheaper cost for small tasks, but not yet for large context tasks.
- impulser_ 2y agoBecause this is Oracle's and OpenAI's project with SoftBank and MGX as investors.
- jazzyjackson 2y agoIt's who you know. Sam is buddies with Masa, simple as.
- thiht 2y agoWho’s Masa?
- dekhn 2y agohttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Masayoshi_Son https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Masayoshi_Son
- evertedsphere 2y ago-yoshi son
- skepticATX 2y agoInterestingly, there seems to be no actual government involvement aside from the announcement taking place at the White House. It all seems to be private money.
- rcpt 2y agoYeah but the linked article makes it seem like the current, one-day-old, administration is responsible for the whole thing.
- janalsncm 2y agoThe article also mentions that this all started last year.
- HarHarVeryFunny 2y agoTrump just tore up Biden's AI safety bill, so this is OpenAI's thank-you - let Trump take some credit
- HarHarVeryFunny 2y agoNote sure if the downvoters realize that Trump did in fact just tear up Biden's AI safety bill/order. https://www.reuters.com/technology/artificial-intelligence/trump-revokes-biden-executive-order-addressing-ai-risks-2025-01-21/ https://www.reuters.com/technology/artificial-intelligence/t...
- spacechild1 2y agoIt's even mentioned in the article! > Still, the regulatory outlook for AI remains somewhat uncertain as Trump on Monday overturned the 2023 order signed by then-President Joe Biden to create safety standards and watermarking of AI-generated content, among other goals, in hopes of putting guardrails on the technology’s possible risks to national security and economic well-being.
- ericjmorey 2y ago
- modeless 2y agoI generally agree that government sponsorship of this could be bad for competition. But Google in particular doesn't necessarily need outside investment to compete with this. They're vertically integrated in AI datacenters and they don't have to pay Nvidia.
- shuckles 2y agoGoogle definitely needs outside investment to spend $500b on capex.
- jonas21 2y agoOver what time frame? They could easily spend that much over the next 5 to 10 years without outside investment (and they probably will).
- modeless 2y agoThey don't have to spend $500B to compete. Their costs should be much lower. That said, I don't think they have the courage to invest even the lower amount that it would take to compete with this. But it's not clear if it's truly necessary either, as DeepSeek is proving that you don't need a billion to get to the frontier. For all we know we might all be running AGI locally on our gaming PCs in a few years' time. I'm glad I'm not the one writing the checks here.
- mtkd 2y agoThis seems to be getting lost in the noise in the stampede for infrastructure funding Deepseek v3 at $5.5M on compute and now r1 a few weeks later hitting o1 benchmark scores with a fraction of the engineers etc. involved ... and open source We know model prep/training compute has potentially peaked for now ... with some smaller models starting to perform very well as inference improves by the week Unless some new RL concept is going to require vastly more compute for a run at AGI soon ... it's possible the capacity being built based on an extrapolation of 2024 numbers will exceed the 2025 actuals Also, can see many enterprises wanting to run on-prem -- at least initially
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- layer8 2y agoAmazon MGM will do the media tie-ins. ;)
- signatoremo 2y agoThis is not a government sponsored agreement. There is no locking out. Trump probably wanted to start his presidency with a bang, being a person with excess vanity. The participating companies scored a PR coup.
- alexandre_m 2y agoYes, everything that Trump does is bad. Or then, consider that with his policies put forward the president brings investments to the US.
- lelandbatey 2y agoThe actual press release makes it clearer that this isn't a lockout of any kind and there's no direct government involvement. Softbank and some of other banks persuaded by Softbank are ponying up $500B for OpenAI to invest in AI. Trump is hyping this up from the sidelines because "OpenAI says this will be good for America". It's basically just another day in the world of press-releases and political pundits commenting on press-releases.
- VectorLock 2y agoSince the CEOs of Google, Amazon and Meta were seated at the front row of the inauguration, IN FRONT OF the incoming cabinet, I'm pretty confident their techno -power-barrel will come via other channels.
- jvm___ 2y agoBroligarchs
- HarHarVeryFunny 2y ago[flagged]
- qgin 2y agoHow involved is the government at all? I’m still having a hard time seeing how Trump or anyone in the government is involved except to do the announcement. These are private companies coming together to do a deal.
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- renegade-otter 2y agoWonder how co-president Elon Musk feels about this, seeing that OpenAI is his mortal enemy.