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Tablets and phones could be calm tech too if they adjusted their brightness and white-point correctly based on ambient lighting.

yapyap 2y ago
I doubt those are the uncalming aspects of tablets and phones, sure they’re what keep you up at night on a physical level but not mentally.
- hammock 2y ago
  + Greyscale + some kind of refresh rate limiter to 1-2Hz instead of 60-120hz :)
  - 9021007 2y ago
    Sounds like you’re describing an e-ink phone, which is actually a real product!
    - hammock 2y ago
      Yes. Or a smartphone with these settings (doesn't require you to spend $$)
      - pushcart 2y ago
        Are you somehow able to lower refresh rate below 60Hz on phones? Would love to do this if possible (have an Android) e: There's adb command to change the refresh rate: `adb shell settings put system min_refresh_rate 10.0`. Unfortunately my phone seems to have locked possible refresh rates to 60/90/120, any other values don't do anything. If someone wants to try this, there should be "Show refresh rate" setting under developer options which helps to detect if the adb command was successful or not.
jazzyjackson 2y ago
I thought an interesting move for the next Light Phone is to dedicate an entire knob to screen brightness [0], although they indicate it will be user programmable too. https://www.thelightphone.com/blog/light-iii-design-manifesto https://www.thelightphone.com/blog/light-iii-design-manifest...
sdflhasjd 2y ago
My previous phone had a scheduled "night time mood" which put the display into greyscale. Without this there's an intensity to the screen that reducing the brightness doesn't fix.
malfist 2y ago
Calm tech isn't about nit levels. It's about how much the tech inserts itself into your attention.
- wink 2y ago
  Maybe that's the spirit but you'll always have people who would like a clock on the wall, always visible and others who don't, but don't mind touching a button for it to light up. So I think "calm" can't be objective.
- criddell 2y ago
  I don't understand how the Daylight Computer, which is a full Android tablet, qualifies as calm tech.

yapyap 2y ago

I doubt those are the uncalming aspects of tablets and phones, sure they’re what keep you up at night on a physical level but not mentally.

hammock 2y ago
+ Greyscale + some kind of refresh rate limiter to 1-2Hz instead of 60-120hz :)
- 9021007 2y ago
  Sounds like you’re describing an e-ink phone, which is actually a real product!
  - hammock 2y ago
    Yes. Or a smartphone with these settings (doesn't require you to spend $$)
    - pushcart 2y ago
      Are you somehow able to lower refresh rate below 60Hz on phones? Would love to do this if possible (have an Android) e: There's adb command to change the refresh rate: `adb shell settings put system min_refresh_rate 10.0`. Unfortunately my phone seems to have locked possible refresh rates to 60/90/120, any other values don't do anything. If someone wants to try this, there should be "Show refresh rate" setting under developer options which helps to detect if the adb command was successful or not.

jazzyjackson 2y ago

I thought an interesting move for the next Light Phone is to dedicate an entire knob to screen brightness [0], although they indicate it will be user programmable too. https://www.thelightphone.com/blog/light-iii-design-manifesto https://www.thelightphone.com/blog/light-iii-design-manifest...

sdflhasjd 2y ago

My previous phone had a scheduled "night time mood" which put the display into greyscale. Without this there's an intensity to the screen that reducing the brightness doesn't fix.

malfist 2y ago

Calm tech isn't about nit levels. It's about how much the tech inserts itself into your attention.

wink 2y ago
Maybe that's the spirit but you'll always have people who would like a clock on the wall, always visible and others who don't, but don't mind touching a button for it to light up. So I think "calm" can't be objective.
criddell 2y ago
I don't understand how the Daylight Computer, which is a full Android tablet, qualifies as calm tech.