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> Delta: "The Delta crew on flight 480 continues to follow ATC instruction along its journey from Los Angeles (LAX) to Honolulu (HNL). The flight is en route to
by dmckeon 2y ago
> Delta: "The Delta crew on flight 480 continues to follow ATC instruction along its journey from Los Angeles (LAX) to Honolulu (HNL). The flight is en route to HNL with no issue.”
Apparently ATC (Air Traffic Control) was unaware of the TRF (Temporary Flight Restriction) around Vandenburg for launches. Perhaps this will prompt an improvement in communication and cooperation in future.
- stravant 2y agoI wonder if ATC gets a number to call.
- dylan604 2y agoIt's should not be ATC's responsibility to call anyone with random checks for NOTAMs to issue. If you want a NOTAM, you call ATC. At least, that's the only way it makes any kind of logical sense.
- L-four 2y agoGrandparent was a joke, when airplane pilots make a mistake. ATC gives them a number to call.
- IncreasePosts 2y agoPlease don't post about things you don't know anything about. The internet is muddled enough as it is.
- dylan604 2y agoUm, akshually, I do know about this. I've launched balloons to 100,000', and part of the proper procedure for doing this is to notify ATC. Depending on the type of balloon and equipment, you might have to contact them multiple times during the course of the balloon's flight. At a minimum, it is at launch and once you have it on the ground again. I had to notify when our balloon was above controlled air space on ascent, and then again when it was descending and ETA on re-entering controlled air space. We were near an air force base, and ATC relayed our reports to them as well
- IncreasePosts 2y agoOkay, but we're talking about flying airplanes. Literally everyone who has ever even remotely looked into flying airplanes in America will know that ATC asking you to copy down a number means "you messed up big time and are going to get lectured, chewed out, or worse".
- NooneAtAll3 2y agoI guess you haven't been much in comment sections under ATC recordings channels, like VASAaviation and such it's relatively common to see events where pilots mess up (to a dangerous degree), so ATC says "I have a number for you to call" basic pattern recognition transforms it into a meme catchphrase for the fans for anyone who messes up
- whamlastxmas 2y agoLmao
- gresrun 2y agoThe ATC was very much aware of the launch in progress[0]. The ATC made a mistake by instructing DL480 to fly a more northern route than the aircrew originally filed. [0]: https://youtu.be/4RMhf0YELrA https://youtu.be/4RMhf0YELrA
- rob74 2y agoBTW, it's written Vandenberg, not Vandenburg as in the article.
- zoover2020 2y agoThe Dutch influence goes far!
- jmercouris 2y agoPerhaps, but `burg` and `berg` have two different meanings in German as well, so perhaps that is where the noise comes from.
- wink 2y agoSome of the noise is also there in German, cf https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bergfried https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bergfried (the English page has the same name, but does not mention Burgfried). Just an example, could be very well unrelated.