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because 3d printing is not there yet. the whole process is basically cnc but with z hops and extruding instead of removing material. we do not even have conic

because 3d printing is not there yet. the whole process is basically cnc but with z hops and extruding instead of removing material. we do not even have conical slicing yet.

abtinf 2y ago
> because 3d printing is not there yet Ya, it is, and it’s been there for quite a while now thanks to Bambu. The X1 just works. Coming up on a year of frequent use, I can count the number of failed prints on one hand. It’s incredible.
- nicman23 2y ago
  i do not believe you. it is mostly a material issue not a printer issue
  - abtinf 2y ago
    > it is mostly a material issue not a printer issue Tell me you don’t anything about 3d printing without telling me you don’t know anything about 3d printing.
    - nicman23 2y ago
      if you think that there are not limitations with current fdm thermoplastics and software, i do not know what to tell you.
  - Mashimo 2y ago
    Both modern (pre assembled) Prusa and Bambu are very good at this. They guide you through the full setup process, automate first layer reliable, have decent stock profiles. It's all just much less tinkering then 5 years ago.
BoorishBears 2y ago
You're saying this yet anyone can buy a random Bambu and just print. I've owned or used probably every major (and some minor) printer released in the last 8 years and for most people Bambu really will just be "plug and play" (and even if something goes wrong they'll hold hands as much as needed)
- nicman23 2y ago
  as i said to another reply, it is a material issue.
  - bagels 2y ago
    That does not match my experience. The printer I have has had parts break with light use, and a really poorly engineered z-axis homing which results in wildly inconsistent zero heights and a very high print failure rate.
imtringued 2y ago
It is. I have no interest in messing around with 3D printers and was annoyed by the fact that Bambu lab lied about the 15 minute setup time. It was more like 45 minutes, but after that I never touched the printer again and started printing instead. Also, subtractive manufacturing is much harder than additive manufacturing, because you need to position the machine around an existing piece of stock and sequence your operations manually, instead of letting a generic slicing algorithm slice from bottom to top with an offset vs the intended printing location only being a problem if you accidentally print over the edge of the build plate, which is usually not possible mechanically.
- nicman23 2y ago
  it is not that. i mostly mean that for anything functional that needs to take a load you need at least petg or asa (abs is a bit old now), which require proper storage. also there are so much stuff that are in open prs and issues for years that are not implemented for slicers.
  - Mashimo 2y ago
    I think the AMS unit for the Bambu is somewhat sealed and has desiccant in it. "take a load" - I don't know what kind of load, do you mean the fact that PLA is creeping under sustained load? If that is YOUR usecase that is fine, but that does not mean that set and forget works just fine for others. Btw gun people use PLA plus just fine.
    - nicman23 2y ago
      that is just one example of issues with thermoplastics. the AMS is great though.
    - ddingus 2y ago
      "Take a load" = perform mechanically and or structurally at levels of force, temperatures, etc. at levels higher than the properties of PLA allow for. Don't get me wrong here. PLA is a great polymer, However you can't really expect parts made with it to hold up when compared to other "engineering grade" polymers.

because 3d printing is not there yet. the whole process is basically cnc but with z hops and extruding instead of removing material. we do not even have conical slicing yet.

abtinf 2y ago

> because 3d printing is not there yet Ya, it is, and it’s been there for quite a while now thanks to Bambu. The X1 just works. Coming up on a year of frequent use, I can count the number of failed prints on one hand. It’s incredible.

nicman23 2y ago
i do not believe you. it is mostly a material issue not a printer issue
- abtinf 2y ago
  > it is mostly a material issue not a printer issue Tell me you don’t anything about 3d printing without telling me you don’t know anything about 3d printing.
  - nicman23 2y ago
    if you think that there are not limitations with current fdm thermoplastics and software, i do not know what to tell you.
- Mashimo 2y ago
  Both modern (pre assembled) Prusa and Bambu are very good at this. They guide you through the full setup process, automate first layer reliable, have decent stock profiles. It's all just much less tinkering then 5 years ago.

BoorishBears 2y ago

You're saying this yet anyone can buy a random Bambu and just print. I've owned or used probably every major (and some minor) printer released in the last 8 years and for most people Bambu really will just be "plug and play" (and even if something goes wrong they'll hold hands as much as needed)

nicman23 2y ago
as i said to another reply, it is a material issue.
- bagels 2y ago
  That does not match my experience. The printer I have has had parts break with light use, and a really poorly engineered z-axis homing which results in wildly inconsistent zero heights and a very high print failure rate.

imtringued 2y ago

It is. I have no interest in messing around with 3D printers and was annoyed by the fact that Bambu lab lied about the 15 minute setup time. It was more like 45 minutes, but after that I never touched the printer again and started printing instead. Also, subtractive manufacturing is much harder than additive manufacturing, because you need to position the machine around an existing piece of stock and sequence your operations manually, instead of letting a generic slicing algorithm slice from bottom to top with an offset vs the intended printing location only being a problem if you accidentally print over the edge of the build plate, which is usually not possible mechanically.

nicman23 2y ago
it is not that. i mostly mean that for anything functional that needs to take a load you need at least petg or asa (abs is a bit old now), which require proper storage. also there are so much stuff that are in open prs and issues for years that are not implemented for slicers.
- Mashimo 2y ago
  I think the AMS unit for the Bambu is somewhat sealed and has desiccant in it. "take a load" - I don't know what kind of load, do you mean the fact that PLA is creeping under sustained load? If that is YOUR usecase that is fine, but that does not mean that set and forget works just fine for others. Btw gun people use PLA plus just fine.
  - nicman23 2y ago
    that is just one example of issues with thermoplastics. the AMS is great though.
  - ddingus 2y ago
    "Take a load" = perform mechanically and or structurally at levels of force, temperatures, etc. at levels higher than the properties of PLA allow for. Don't get me wrong here. PLA is a great polymer, However you can't really expect parts made with it to hold up when compared to other "engineering grade" polymers.