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> Employees at Amazon’s Toronto office said their personal belongings have repeatedly been stolen from their desks. This is the stupidest thing to do, presumin

> Employees at Amazon’s Toronto office said their personal belongings have repeatedly been stolen from their desks. This is the stupidest thing to do, presuming the Toronto offices are similar to SLU. There are cameras everywhere and if someone is stealing, all it should take is 15 minutes of footage review and a notification to HR to terminate them.

golly_ned 2y ago
Hence, they're probably not being "stolen" as much as someone being like "there's someone else's stuff here where I either thought my desk was, or on this desk which I want to claim for my own, so I will move this other person's stuff elsewhere."
- sitkack 2y ago
  Stolen implies intent, "removed" does not.
  - craftkiller 2y ago
    Unless the employees have recovered their property or found a perpetrator, they (and we) can only speculate as to the intent behind their disappearance.
  - golly_ned 2y ago
    That’s true. What’s the relevance of this obvious fact?
hbosch 2y ago
First assumption is that there is a miscommunication between GREF and a team about desks being permanent or "hotel" setup, and most of this stolen stuff is in lost & found or a locker or something like that. But a scratched itch for those seeking a reason to not RTO, for sure.
Insanity 2y ago
I just left Amazon because of RTO. Have worked out of various offices across EU and NA, including Toronto… and Toronto was by far the worst. Partly because Amazon does not own the entire building, and partly because of issues such as space constraints. Also as a fun side note, when they gave assigned desks for RTO5, they were assigned by last name. Not by team, but by name, so everyone ended up separated from their actual team… great for collaboration lol.
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pas 2y ago
if there aren't enough desk do you think there's enough bandwidth to handle all the "where's my shit" reports/issues?
- Ferret7446 2y ago
  Getting more desks is probably not a bandwidth issue but a logistics issue. Putting more support people on it is not going to speed up the trucks shipping the desks.
hiyer 2y ago
IIRC the Bangalore office only had cameras at the entries and exits, not over employees' desks. Might be some privacy thing.

golly_ned 2y ago

Hence, they're probably not being "stolen" as much as someone being like "there's someone else's stuff here where I either thought my desk was, or on this desk which I want to claim for my own, so I will move this other person's stuff elsewhere."

sitkack 2y ago
Stolen implies intent, "removed" does not.
- craftkiller 2y ago
  Unless the employees have recovered their property or found a perpetrator, they (and we) can only speculate as to the intent behind their disappearance.
- golly_ned 2y ago
  That’s true. What’s the relevance of this obvious fact?

hbosch 2y ago

First assumption is that there is a miscommunication between GREF and a team about desks being permanent or "hotel" setup, and most of this stolen stuff is in lost & found or a locker or something like that. But a scratched itch for those seeking a reason to not RTO, for sure.

Insanity 2y ago

I just left Amazon because of RTO. Have worked out of various offices across EU and NA, including Toronto… and Toronto was by far the worst. Partly because Amazon does not own the entire building, and partly because of issues such as space constraints. Also as a fun side note, when they gave assigned desks for RTO5, they were assigned by last name. Not by team, but by name, so everyone ended up separated from their actual team… great for collaboration lol.

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pas 2y ago

if there aren't enough desk do you think there's enough bandwidth to handle all the "where's my shit" reports/issues?

Ferret7446 2y ago
Getting more desks is probably not a bandwidth issue but a logistics issue. Putting more support people on it is not going to speed up the trucks shipping the desks.

hiyer 2y ago

IIRC the Bangalore office only had cameras at the entries and exits, not over employees' desks. Might be some privacy thing.