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Have you tried the trackpads of the MacBooks? I used to not like trackpads until I used those.

jitl 2y ago
Besides the trackpad, it seems laptops outside Apple also regressed on basic stuff like “does it hibernate” and “can I trust it to not turn into jet engine in backpack”. Microsoft’s war on sleep states and demand for AI key on the keyboard are quite frustrating in the laptop market.
- wkat4242 2y ago
  Apple actually pioneered the connected standby (though they called it powernap as they have a snazzy marketing name for everything) I hated it when I had a macbook (from work) because it did sometimes heat up in my backpack. So I always turned it off with pmset. I have to say though that this was firmly in the intel age, my last personal Macs were a 2010 MacBook and 2011 Mac Mini. I guess this feature works better now that they're on ARM and they can just keep one or two light cores active. But ARM macs are also more locked down so they're not an option for me. Also I really hate their hardware (too little travel on the keys, sharp edges etc). Even when they returned to the old scissor keys the key travel was too short for me. I'm really happy with KDE these days, it gives me back choice and options on how I want my system to work. The only thing I miss from Apple is pixelmator.
ziml77 2y ago
Same here. I had the trackpad disabled on my ThinkPad in college (which always confused others when they tried to use it). After college I switched to a MacBook Air and was shocked at how good the trackpad on it was. It's incredible that, over a decade later, non-Apple systems have still not quite caught up. Windows does better than any of the Linux distros I've tried at handling the trackpad input, but acceleration curves still feel off and it doesn't detect two finger scrolling when the angle of my hand is too extreme.
wkat4242 2y ago
Yes, I hate those too. But I have RSI, I'm very sensitive. Any trackpad gets me sore after a few minutes. But also bad mice. For example it's impossible for me to use the Apple "Magic" mouse. It's wayyyyy too flat and cramps my hand after a few minutes. Form over function. Though not as bad as the completely idiotic puck mouse which I've also used in "my time". Also I hate the sharp metal edges at the front of macbooks that leave marks on my wrists. I don't use MacBooks anymore (or Mac in general as I found it too opinionated and locked down).
- frizlab 2y ago
  The Magic Mouse is not very good indeed. Gestures especially are really hard to pull off. Agree for the metal edges. I do not love them either. I usually put a piece of cloth below my wrist when it’s not cold enough to have a sweater :-)

jitl 2y ago

Besides the trackpad, it seems laptops outside Apple also regressed on basic stuff like “does it hibernate” and “can I trust it to not turn into jet engine in backpack”. Microsoft’s war on sleep states and demand for AI key on the keyboard are quite frustrating in the laptop market.

wkat4242 2y ago
Apple actually pioneered the connected standby (though they called it powernap as they have a snazzy marketing name for everything) I hated it when I had a macbook (from work) because it did sometimes heat up in my backpack. So I always turned it off with pmset. I have to say though that this was firmly in the intel age, my last personal Macs were a 2010 MacBook and 2011 Mac Mini. I guess this feature works better now that they're on ARM and they can just keep one or two light cores active. But ARM macs are also more locked down so they're not an option for me. Also I really hate their hardware (too little travel on the keys, sharp edges etc). Even when they returned to the old scissor keys the key travel was too short for me. I'm really happy with KDE these days, it gives me back choice and options on how I want my system to work. The only thing I miss from Apple is pixelmator.

ziml77 2y ago

Same here. I had the trackpad disabled on my ThinkPad in college (which always confused others when they tried to use it). After college I switched to a MacBook Air and was shocked at how good the trackpad on it was. It's incredible that, over a decade later, non-Apple systems have still not quite caught up. Windows does better than any of the Linux distros I've tried at handling the trackpad input, but acceleration curves still feel off and it doesn't detect two finger scrolling when the angle of my hand is too extreme.

wkat4242 2y ago

Yes, I hate those too. But I have RSI, I'm very sensitive. Any trackpad gets me sore after a few minutes. But also bad mice. For example it's impossible for me to use the Apple "Magic" mouse. It's wayyyyy too flat and cramps my hand after a few minutes. Form over function. Though not as bad as the completely idiotic puck mouse which I've also used in "my time". Also I hate the sharp metal edges at the front of macbooks that leave marks on my wrists. I don't use MacBooks anymore (or Mac in general as I found it too opinionated and locked down).

frizlab 2y ago
The Magic Mouse is not very good indeed. Gestures especially are really hard to pull off. Agree for the metal edges. I do not love them either. I usually put a piece of cloth below my wrist when it’s not cold enough to have a sweater :-)