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If you find your X feed is fucked, bluesky is right there and offers complete algorithm customization… the network effects aren’t as strong but at least there’s

by medhir 2y ago

If you find your X feed is fucked, bluesky is right there and offers complete algorithm customization… the network effects aren’t as strong but at least there’s some options to better control the experience.

CactusBlue 2y ago
Bsky does not fix any of the core problems with Twitter. It's still fundamentally a "town square" with algorithmic feeds that keep you engaged. It actively tries to transplant the culture of Twitter to itself, which is something that I don't wish to deal with at all.
- auniff 2y ago
  It presents itself as a "town square" but because the platform has such strong behaviour in severing interactions between accounts, in practice it consists lots of isolated silos of users echoing the same views to each other ad infinitum. A forum like HN is much more of a town square because pretty much everyone sees the same content in every set of comments, with just one toggle ("showdead") to modify that.
- astrange 2y ago
  It has totally optional algorithmic feeds, and the ones it does have don't work (they only show me spambots) so there's no motivation to use them.
TiredOfLife 2y ago
Bluesky doesn't even have a following feed like twitter (where only posts by people you follow show up)
- medhir 2y ago
  yes it does…
  - TiredOfLife 2y ago
    No, it doesn't.
- add-sub-mul-div 2y ago
  What the hell are you talking about, that's the default view.
  - TiredOfLife 2y ago
    It might be default view but its filled with posts by people i don't follow
    - add-sub-mul-div 2y ago
      You can turn off retweets and replies. If you're going to use software with only the default options, at least don't spread misinformation about what you failed to try to learn.
      - TiredOfLife 2y ago
        I am not talking about replies and retweets. Those are literally posts from people I dont follow and are not reposts. 4 day old post is followed by posts posted only hours ago.
        rideontime 2y ago
        You must be misunderstanding something.
        add-sub-mul-div 2y ago
        Maybe you're looking at the "Discover" tab and not the default one which is called "Following". One scenario where chronology is confusing is when a reply to an earlier tweet takes its chronological place in the timeline but also includes the earlier tweet for context.
        TiredOfLife 2y ago
        I am looking at the tab called Following. I even turned off quotes, replies and mentions. It still shows only 3 days (yesterday it was 4 days) of posts by followers followed by random crap.
- drusepth 2y ago
  The two feeds on Bluesky are "Following" (only posts by people you follow show up) and "Discover" (largely dominated by posts by people you don't follow). There are two huge tabs at the top of your feed to switch between them. If you are following 0 people, the "Following" feed acts similar to the "Discover" feed. As soon as you follow a single person, it works as you'd expect (only showing content from people you've followed).
  - TiredOfLife 2y ago
    I follow multiple people. The following tab shows a couple of their posts and the rest is just random posters
    - CommieBobDole 2y ago
      Something is terribly wrong, then; my following feed shows posts (and certain replies) from people I follow in reverse chronological order, and nothing else, ever. Are you maybe seeing things that have been reposted by people you follow? There's a lot of that, but those still count as "posts from people you follow". If you want to exclude those, there are settings at the following link: https://bsky.app/settings/following-feed https://bsky.app/settings/following-feed Also if you just want to not see them sometimes, there's a feed you can add called 'OnlyPosts': https://bsky.app/profile/skyfeed.xyz/feed/only-posts https://bsky.app/profile/skyfeed.xyz/feed/only-posts
      - TiredOfLife 2y ago
        Those settings did nothing. And that only-posts feed is even stranger. It only shows 3 days. People I follow have months of posts.
    - drusepth 2y ago
      Do those random posts have a "Reposted by (person you follow)" line at the top of them?

by medhir 2y ago

CactusBlue 2y ago

Bsky does not fix any of the core problems with Twitter. It's still fundamentally a "town square" with algorithmic feeds that keep you engaged. It actively tries to transplant the culture of Twitter to itself, which is something that I don't wish to deal with at all.

auniff 2y ago
It presents itself as a "town square" but because the platform has such strong behaviour in severing interactions between accounts, in practice it consists lots of isolated silos of users echoing the same views to each other ad infinitum. A forum like HN is much more of a town square because pretty much everyone sees the same content in every set of comments, with just one toggle ("showdead") to modify that.
astrange 2y ago
It has totally optional algorithmic feeds, and the ones it does have don't work (they only show me spambots) so there's no motivation to use them.

TiredOfLife 2y ago

Bluesky doesn't even have a following feed like twitter (where only posts by people you follow show up)

medhir 2y ago
yes it does…
- TiredOfLife 2y ago
  No, it doesn't.
add-sub-mul-div 2y ago
What the hell are you talking about, that's the default view.
- TiredOfLife 2y ago
  It might be default view but its filled with posts by people i don't follow
  - add-sub-mul-div 2y ago
    You can turn off retweets and replies. If you're going to use software with only the default options, at least don't spread misinformation about what you failed to try to learn.
    - TiredOfLife 2y ago
      I am not talking about replies and retweets. Those are literally posts from people I dont follow and are not reposts. 4 day old post is followed by posts posted only hours ago.
      - rideontime 2y ago
        You must be misunderstanding something.
      - add-sub-mul-div 2y ago
        Maybe you're looking at the "Discover" tab and not the default one which is called "Following". One scenario where chronology is confusing is when a reply to an earlier tweet takes its chronological place in the timeline but also includes the earlier tweet for context.
        TiredOfLife 2y ago
        I am looking at the tab called Following. I even turned off quotes, replies and mentions. It still shows only 3 days (yesterday it was 4 days) of posts by followers followed by random crap.
drusepth 2y ago
The two feeds on Bluesky are "Following" (only posts by people you follow show up) and "Discover" (largely dominated by posts by people you don't follow). There are two huge tabs at the top of your feed to switch between them. If you are following 0 people, the "Following" feed acts similar to the "Discover" feed. As soon as you follow a single person, it works as you'd expect (only showing content from people you've followed).
- TiredOfLife 2y ago
  I follow multiple people. The following tab shows a couple of their posts and the rest is just random posters
  - CommieBobDole 2y ago
    Something is terribly wrong, then; my following feed shows posts (and certain replies) from people I follow in reverse chronological order, and nothing else, ever. Are you maybe seeing things that have been reposted by people you follow? There's a lot of that, but those still count as "posts from people you follow". If you want to exclude those, there are settings at the following link: https://bsky.app/settings/following-feed https://bsky.app/settings/following-feed Also if you just want to not see them sometimes, there's a feed you can add called 'OnlyPosts': https://bsky.app/profile/skyfeed.xyz/feed/only-posts https://bsky.app/profile/skyfeed.xyz/feed/only-posts
    - TiredOfLife 2y ago
      Those settings did nothing. And that only-posts feed is even stranger. It only shows 3 days. People I follow have months of posts.
  - drusepth 2y ago
    Do those random posts have a "Reposted by (person you follow)" line at the top of them?