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This reminds me of the Al Jazeera America (“AJAM”) news channel. They weren’t banned per sé, but it’s obvious they were doomed from the start. An Arab news netw

This reminds me of the Al Jazeera America (“AJAM”) news channel. They weren’t banned per sé, but it’s obvious they were doomed from the start. An Arab news network operating in the United States… if you think TikTok had a target painted on its back for being Chinese-owned… https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al_Jazeera_America https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al_Jazeera_America

victorbjorklund 2y ago
They arent "just" an arab media. They are financed and controlled by the dictatorship of qatar. That is like claiming Russia Today was domed because it was a "slavic" network. No it was domed because it is propaganda financed and controlled by a dictatorship.
- roenxi 2y ago
  Technically the BBC is a state broadcasting service subject to King Charles who, AFAIK, nobody voted for. State run propaganda networks are actually a pretty good source of information; they are well resourced and have a vested interest in being perceived as high-credibility so they can tip the scale on a small number of issues critical to the state. And good propaganda is mostly done by omission and careful fact selection, although a lot of the bit-player dictatorships aren't competent enough to handle good propaganda.
  - AshamedCaptain 2y ago
    It always rub me the wrong way that YouTube puts a "this is a state actor" disclaimer on a video uploaded by the well-known public media corporation of a western democracy, but put zero disclaimer whatsoever on a random video uploaded by an anonymous account created 2 minutes ago.
- pydry 2y ago
  And Al Arabiya isnt banned because...?
  - UltraSane 2y ago
    TikTok wasn't banned. It was required to be sold but ByteDance refused to do so, probably because the CCP won't let them.
- faust201 2y ago
  UK is millions of times better than Qatar but BBC is not too great. Somethings are great with BBC not everything. Fox news? Qatar doesn't micromanage everything.
- onemoresoop 2y ago
  I thought it was normal to take media with whatever slant it had and look for evidence supressed by others, check a few opposing outlets and piece together a narrative as close as possible to neutral. When thise outlets aren’t available we’re likely to get a much more distorted story.
fldskfjdslkfj 2y ago
Even the Palestinian authority banned Al Jazeera https://www.wsj.com/world/middle-east/palestinian-authority-bans-al-jazeera-in-west-bank-a5c7729d https://www.wsj.com/world/middle-east/palestinian-authority-...
- pydry 2y ago
  Because they were leaned on by Israel.
  - fldskfjdslkfj 2y ago
    Citation needed. The Palestinian Authority and Hamas are not exactly friends, they don't need much convincing to ban Al Jazeera. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fatah%E2%80%93Hamas_conflict https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fatah%E2%80%93Hamas_conflict

victorbjorklund 2y ago

They arent "just" an arab media. They are financed and controlled by the dictatorship of qatar. That is like claiming Russia Today was domed because it was a "slavic" network. No it was domed because it is propaganda financed and controlled by a dictatorship.

roenxi 2y ago
Technically the BBC is a state broadcasting service subject to King Charles who, AFAIK, nobody voted for. State run propaganda networks are actually a pretty good source of information; they are well resourced and have a vested interest in being perceived as high-credibility so they can tip the scale on a small number of issues critical to the state. And good propaganda is mostly done by omission and careful fact selection, although a lot of the bit-player dictatorships aren't competent enough to handle good propaganda.
- AshamedCaptain 2y ago
  It always rub me the wrong way that YouTube puts a "this is a state actor" disclaimer on a video uploaded by the well-known public media corporation of a western democracy, but put zero disclaimer whatsoever on a random video uploaded by an anonymous account created 2 minutes ago.
pydry 2y ago
And Al Arabiya isnt banned because...?
- UltraSane 2y ago
  TikTok wasn't banned. It was required to be sold but ByteDance refused to do so, probably because the CCP won't let them.
faust201 2y ago
UK is millions of times better than Qatar but BBC is not too great. Somethings are great with BBC not everything. Fox news? Qatar doesn't micromanage everything.
onemoresoop 2y ago
I thought it was normal to take media with whatever slant it had and look for evidence supressed by others, check a few opposing outlets and piece together a narrative as close as possible to neutral. When thise outlets aren’t available we’re likely to get a much more distorted story.

fldskfjdslkfj 2y ago

Even the Palestinian authority banned Al Jazeera https://www.wsj.com/world/middle-east/palestinian-authority-bans-al-jazeera-in-west-bank-a5c7729d https://www.wsj.com/world/middle-east/palestinian-authority-...

pydry 2y ago
Because they were leaned on by Israel.
- fldskfjdslkfj 2y ago
  Citation needed. The Palestinian Authority and Hamas are not exactly friends, they don't need much convincing to ban Al Jazeera. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fatah%E2%80%93Hamas_conflict https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fatah%E2%80%93Hamas_conflict