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>why it's about Russia? are Russians a part of this too? reply Yes, Russian bot farms work hard on TikTok. Algorithms and bot farms have no right for "free s

>why it's about Russia? are Russians a part of this too? reply Yes, Russian bot farms work hard on TikTok. Algorithms and bot farms have no right for "free speech".

suraci 2y ago
Are they in the room with us right now? Does they also faked opinions about Isreal and Gaza? It's horrible, how should we identify them?
- simion314 2y ago
  >Are they in the room with us right now? This is well known but ou can contionue to pdo your job pretending it is not. Independent group also could prove this, it is easy, thousands of accounts that were created at the same time, then slept for years are activated at the same time and spread same content. Ruzzia was very proud by the cyber troll army, did they start denying it now? And now do you belive their Mistier of Invasion ? I mean they are still reporting that they are always downing 100% of the drones but the debries sometimes hit the target, sometimes cigarrates or lighting cause fires... so please let's ignore everything those criminals say. Do you pretend bot farms do not exist? >It's horrible, how should we identify them? Social Media can identify them if they want. As a regular users in general you can spot a bot account if it is new or hybernated for years and just started posting. But the issue is with bots that vote, give lies this ones are used to boost content so the algorithm pushes that agenda in fron of real users. but having many bot accounts increase their evaluation so they are not putting effort into silencing them.
LAC-Tech 2y ago
I've never understood this conspiracy theory. If Russia does have bot farms, and they're effective, surely the US has much, much larger bot farms - their budgment for this sort of thing completely dwarfs Russia. Or is the US just too much of a moral actor to do this?
- therouwboat 2y ago
  No, US is the one that gives them platform.
- levzzz 2y ago
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- simion314 2y ago
  Say it is true, then both are wrong and evil. But from my POV Ruzzia has more interests in destabilizing my country and region then do a invasion they would call liberation and grab some strategic lands.
- jazzyjackson 2y ago
  Russia was just flowing USA's lead, Centcom was contracting out influence operations through sock puppet accounts since 2011, no different than Radio Free Asia really, influence hearts and minds, now with just a little automation. https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2011/mar/17/us-spy-operation-social-networks https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2011/mar/17/us-spy-op...
- wqaatwt 2y ago
  > Or is the US just too much of a moral actor to do this? US government has massively more oversight because of still somewhat functioning legislative and judicial systems. Also free press is still a thing (compared to Russia anyway..). Ao any large scale program like this would inevitably be leaked and scrutinized (of course if they keep it somewhat low scale it will probably pass under the radar). So effectively.. yes? It is?
- cyberax 2y ago
  It's not a conspiracy theory. We know where the farms were located and several former bot farm workers spoke about them. The US government can barely make a comment telling people that they're not horses.
- low_tech_love 2y ago
  This underlying idea that the US state is “just the same” as Russia, China, etc. (and that as such they will function in the same way) is imho one the biggest factors on the decline of the quality of western democracy today. I’m not American, have only been there once a couple of days, and have no special sympathy for the country, but the fact that so many people do not understand that the US democracy is fundamentally different than the Russian or Chinese regimes is such a sad, depressing thing.

>why it's about Russia? are Russians a part of this too? reply Yes, Russian bot farms work hard on TikTok. Algorithms and bot farms have no right for "free speech".

suraci 2y ago

Are they in the room with us right now? Does they also faked opinions about Isreal and Gaza? It's horrible, how should we identify them?

simion314 2y ago
>Are they in the room with us right now? This is well known but ou can contionue to pdo your job pretending it is not. Independent group also could prove this, it is easy, thousands of accounts that were created at the same time, then slept for years are activated at the same time and spread same content. Ruzzia was very proud by the cyber troll army, did they start denying it now? And now do you belive their Mistier of Invasion ? I mean they are still reporting that they are always downing 100% of the drones but the debries sometimes hit the target, sometimes cigarrates or lighting cause fires... so please let's ignore everything those criminals say. Do you pretend bot farms do not exist? >It's horrible, how should we identify them? Social Media can identify them if they want. As a regular users in general you can spot a bot account if it is new or hybernated for years and just started posting. But the issue is with bots that vote, give lies this ones are used to boost content so the algorithm pushes that agenda in fron of real users. but having many bot accounts increase their evaluation so they are not putting effort into silencing them.

LAC-Tech 2y ago

I've never understood this conspiracy theory. If Russia does have bot farms, and they're effective, surely the US has much, much larger bot farms - their budgment for this sort of thing completely dwarfs Russia. Or is the US just too much of a moral actor to do this?

therouwboat 2y ago
No, US is the one that gives them platform.
levzzz 2y ago
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simion314 2y ago
Say it is true, then both are wrong and evil. But from my POV Ruzzia has more interests in destabilizing my country and region then do a invasion they would call liberation and grab some strategic lands.
jazzyjackson 2y ago
Russia was just flowing USA's lead, Centcom was contracting out influence operations through sock puppet accounts since 2011, no different than Radio Free Asia really, influence hearts and minds, now with just a little automation. https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2011/mar/17/us-spy-operation-social-networks https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2011/mar/17/us-spy-op...
wqaatwt 2y ago
> Or is the US just too much of a moral actor to do this? US government has massively more oversight because of still somewhat functioning legislative and judicial systems. Also free press is still a thing (compared to Russia anyway..). Ao any large scale program like this would inevitably be leaked and scrutinized (of course if they keep it somewhat low scale it will probably pass under the radar). So effectively.. yes? It is?
cyberax 2y ago
It's not a conspiracy theory. We know where the farms were located and several former bot farm workers spoke about them. The US government can barely make a comment telling people that they're not horses.
low_tech_love 2y ago
This underlying idea that the US state is “just the same” as Russia, China, etc. (and that as such they will function in the same way) is imho one the biggest factors on the decline of the quality of western democracy today. I’m not American, have only been there once a couple of days, and have no special sympathy for the country, but the fact that so many people do not understand that the US democracy is fundamentally different than the Russian or Chinese regimes is such a sad, depressing thing.