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An MSN repost of a Fox Business article, that lifted a specific sentence from a NYTimes article, where the source was "people familiar with the meeting". This

An MSN repost of a Fox Business article, that lifted a specific sentence from a NYTimes article, where the source was "people familiar with the meeting". This is likely as accurate as the game of broken telephone that kids play.

tasty_freeze 2y ago
More than once it has happened where some NYT article will discuss some private meeting at the White House and attribute it to someone like, "According to a credible source at that meeting, blah blah". Later it is confirmed that that well placed source was the President, or the secretary of state, etc. Credible news organizations don't just repeat whatever some random guy claims to have heard.
- HideousKojima 2y ago
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  - refulgentis 2y ago
    What about it? IIRC Buzzfeed published it after it had well-leaked McCain had fowarded it to FBI?
- forgingahead 2y ago
  The NYTimes has a history of fabricating and outright lying to serve their own corporate or affiliated agendas. See for eg: https://www.amazon.com/Gray-Lady-Winked-Misreporting-Fabrications/dp/B09HW1K6V8 https://www.amazon.com/Gray-Lady-Winked-Misreporting-Fabrica...
  - kiitos 2y ago
    The New York Times is probably the most trusted, and trustable, publication in all of journalism.
    - forgingahead 2y ago
      "Americans' Trust in Media Remains at Trend Low" https://news.gallup.com/poll/651977/americans-trust-media-remains-trend-low.aspx https://news.gallup.com/poll/651977/americans-trust-media-re... And from the NYTimes themselves: "‘Trust’ in the News Media Has Come to Mean Affirmation" https://www.nytimes.com/roomfordebate/2015/11/11/why-has-trust-in-the-news-media-declined/trust-in-the-news-media-has-come-to-mean-affirmation https://www.nytimes.com/roomfordebate/2015/11/11/why-has-tru...
byearthithatius 2y ago
So it is two articles that both ultimately source from NYT? They are not commonly flat out incorrect, and when they are tend to correct the record. So I would say your statement is hyperbole and wrong. NYT sources are likely quite a bit more trustworthy than eight year olds whispering to each other for fun.
- forgingahead 2y ago
  The NYTimes has a history of fabricating and outright lying to serve their own corporate or affiliated agendas. See for eg: https://www.amazon.com/Gray-Lady-Winked-Misreporting-Fabrications/dp/B09HW1K6V8 https://www.amazon.com/Gray-Lady-Winked-Misreporting-Fabrica...
  - kiitos 2y ago
    The New York Times is probably the most trusted, and trustable, publication in all of journalism.
    - forgingahead 2y ago
      "Americans' Trust in Media Remains at Trend Low" https://news.gallup.com/poll/651977/americans-trust-media-remains-trend-low.aspx https://news.gallup.com/poll/651977/americans-trust-media-re... And from the NYTimes themselves: "‘Trust’ in the News Media Has Come to Mean Affirmation" https://www.nytimes.com/roomfordebate/2015/11/11/why-has-trust-in-the-news-media-declined/trust-in-the-news-media-has-come-to-mean-affirmation https://www.nytimes.com/roomfordebate/2015/11/11/why-has-tru...

tasty_freeze 2y ago

More than once it has happened where some NYT article will discuss some private meeting at the White House and attribute it to someone like, "According to a credible source at that meeting, blah blah". Later it is confirmed that that well placed source was the President, or the secretary of state, etc. Credible news organizations don't just repeat whatever some random guy claims to have heard.

HideousKojima 2y ago
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- refulgentis 2y ago
  What about it? IIRC Buzzfeed published it after it had well-leaked McCain had fowarded it to FBI?
forgingahead 2y ago
The NYTimes has a history of fabricating and outright lying to serve their own corporate or affiliated agendas. See for eg: https://www.amazon.com/Gray-Lady-Winked-Misreporting-Fabrications/dp/B09HW1K6V8 https://www.amazon.com/Gray-Lady-Winked-Misreporting-Fabrica...
- kiitos 2y ago
  The New York Times is probably the most trusted, and trustable, publication in all of journalism.
  - forgingahead 2y ago
    "Americans' Trust in Media Remains at Trend Low" https://news.gallup.com/poll/651977/americans-trust-media-remains-trend-low.aspx https://news.gallup.com/poll/651977/americans-trust-media-re... And from the NYTimes themselves: "‘Trust’ in the News Media Has Come to Mean Affirmation" https://www.nytimes.com/roomfordebate/2015/11/11/why-has-trust-in-the-news-media-declined/trust-in-the-news-media-has-come-to-mean-affirmation https://www.nytimes.com/roomfordebate/2015/11/11/why-has-tru...

byearthithatius 2y ago

So it is two articles that both ultimately source from NYT? They are not commonly flat out incorrect, and when they are tend to correct the record. So I would say your statement is hyperbole and wrong. NYT sources are likely quite a bit more trustworthy than eight year olds whispering to each other for fun.

forgingahead 2y ago
The NYTimes has a history of fabricating and outright lying to serve their own corporate or affiliated agendas. See for eg: https://www.amazon.com/Gray-Lady-Winked-Misreporting-Fabrications/dp/B09HW1K6V8 https://www.amazon.com/Gray-Lady-Winked-Misreporting-Fabrica...
- kiitos 2y ago
  The New York Times is probably the most trusted, and trustable, publication in all of journalism.
  - forgingahead 2y ago
    "Americans' Trust in Media Remains at Trend Low" https://news.gallup.com/poll/651977/americans-trust-media-remains-trend-low.aspx https://news.gallup.com/poll/651977/americans-trust-media-re... And from the NYTimes themselves: "‘Trust’ in the News Media Has Come to Mean Affirmation" https://www.nytimes.com/roomfordebate/2015/11/11/why-has-trust-in-the-news-media-declined/trust-in-the-news-media-has-come-to-mean-affirmation https://www.nytimes.com/roomfordebate/2015/11/11/why-has-tru...