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Dendrite was officially cancelled late last year. The repo was archived. https://github.com/matrix-org/dendrite https://github.com/matrix-org/dendrite

bean-weevil 2y ago
It continues to be developed by matrix https://github.com/element-hq/dendrite https://github.com/element-hq/dendrite
- benatkin 2y ago
  Yes, as open source but under a different license. Now, I don't dislike the AGPL, but think a healthy FLOSS community has a variety of licenses. However, freedom 0 is important. https://blog.codinghorror.com/why-doesnt-anyone-give-a-crap-about-freedom-zero/ https://blog.codinghorror.com/why-doesnt-anyone-give-a-crap-... I feel like not all software under the same copyleft license is the same. Mastodon is under the AGPL, and I think people are comfortable treating it as a component alongside differently licensed projects, on a subdomain, such as https://fedi.simonwillison.net/@simon https://fedi.simonwillison.net/@simon and many others where people use Mastodon for their ActivityPub feed on a subdomain of their own domain. From what I've seen of Element I think they'd throw a fit if people used Element's AGPL projects in the same way, especially if it was made convenient by a cloud provider, while still keeping it separate (such as in a different container).
  - camgunz 2y ago
    Do you have examples?
wkat4242 2y ago
Oh thanks I missed that. I thought it was still stuck in its forever 'nearing feature complete' status :) Edit: oh ok it's still alive but just not very active. That's ok. I think synapse is fine as long as the long-standing issues would be fixed. Like big federated rooms.
Arathorn 2y ago
No, not cancelled. Just not being developed with dayjob funding currently (as there is none). This isn’t the first time it’s been in that state, and it returned before: https://github.com/element-hq/dendrite/graphs/contributors https://github.com/element-hq/dendrite/graphs/contributors shows rumours of its death are exaggerated. But it’s certainly stuck evolving on a best effort basis for now (thanks to its old team working on it in their free time, basically).

bean-weevil 2y ago

It continues to be developed by matrix https://github.com/element-hq/dendrite https://github.com/element-hq/dendrite

benatkin 2y ago
Yes, as open source but under a different license. Now, I don't dislike the AGPL, but think a healthy FLOSS community has a variety of licenses. However, freedom 0 is important. https://blog.codinghorror.com/why-doesnt-anyone-give-a-crap-about-freedom-zero/ https://blog.codinghorror.com/why-doesnt-anyone-give-a-crap-... I feel like not all software under the same copyleft license is the same. Mastodon is under the AGPL, and I think people are comfortable treating it as a component alongside differently licensed projects, on a subdomain, such as https://fedi.simonwillison.net/@simon https://fedi.simonwillison.net/@simon and many others where people use Mastodon for their ActivityPub feed on a subdomain of their own domain. From what I've seen of Element I think they'd throw a fit if people used Element's AGPL projects in the same way, especially if it was made convenient by a cloud provider, while still keeping it separate (such as in a different container).
- camgunz 2y ago
  Do you have examples?

wkat4242 2y ago

Oh thanks I missed that. I thought it was still stuck in its forever 'nearing feature complete' status :) Edit: oh ok it's still alive but just not very active. That's ok. I think synapse is fine as long as the long-standing issues would be fixed. Like big federated rooms.

Arathorn 2y ago

No, not cancelled. Just not being developed with dayjob funding currently (as there is none). This isn’t the first time it’s been in that state, and it returned before: https://github.com/element-hq/dendrite/graphs/contributors https://github.com/element-hq/dendrite/graphs/contributors shows rumours of its death are exaggerated. But it’s certainly stuck evolving on a best effort basis for now (thanks to its old team working on it in their free time, basically).