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You should check your websites like grass dot io (I refuse to give them traffic). They pay you for your bandwidth while they resell it to 3rd parties, which is
by OptionOfT 2y ago
You should check your websites like grass dot io (I refuse to give them traffic).
They pay you for your bandwidth while they resell it to 3rd parties, which is why a lot of bot traffic looks like it comes from residential IPs.
- Aurornis 2y agoYes, but the point is that big company crawlers aren’t paying for questionably sourced residential proxies. If this person is seeing a lot of traffic from residential IPs then I would be shocked if it’s really Amazon. I think someone else is doing something sketchy and they put “AmazonBot” in the user agent to make victims think it’s Amazon. You can set the user agent string to anything you want, as we all know.
- skywhopper 2y agoIt’s not residential proxies. It’s Amazon using IPs they sublease from residential ISPs.
- voakbasda 2y agoI wonder if anyone has checked whether Alexa devices serve as a private proxy network for AmazonBot’s use.
- tepidsaucer 2y agoYes, people have probably analyzed Alexa traffic once or twice over the years.
- photonthug 2y agoYou joke, but do people analyze it continuously forever also? Because if we’re being paranoid, that’s something you’d need to do in order to account for random updates that are probably happening all the time.
- baobun 2y ago> Yes, but the point is that big company crawlers aren’t paying for questionably sourced residential proxies You'd be surprised...
- WarOnPrivacy 2y ago>> Yes, but the point is that big company crawlers aren’t paying for questionably sourced residential proxies > You'd be surprised... Surprised by what? What do you know?
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- ninkendo 2y agoThey could be using echo devices to proxy their traffic… Although I’m not necessarily gonna make that accusation, because it would be pretty serious misconduct if it were true.
- ninkendo 2y agoTo add: it’s also kinda silly on the surface of it for Amazon to use consumer devices to hide their crawling traffic, but still leave “Amazonbot” in their UA string… it’s pretty safe to assume they’re not doing this.
- dafelst 2y agoI worked for Microsoft doing malware detection back 10+ years ago, and questionably sourced proxies were well and truly on the table
- WarOnPrivacy 2y ago>> but the point is that big company crawlers aren’t paying for questionably sourced residential proxies. > I worked for Microsoft doing malware detection back 10+ years ago, and questionably sourced proxies were well and truly on the table Big Company Crawlers using questionably sourced proxies - this seems striking. What can you share about it?
- to11mtm 2y agothey probably can't because some of the proxies were used by TLAs is my guess...
- crote 2y agoThey worked on malware detection. The most likely reason is very obvious: if you only allow traffic from residential addresses to your Command & Control server, you make anti-malware research (which is most likely coming from either a datacenter or an office building) an awful lot harder - especially when you give non-residential IPs a different and harmless response instead of straight-up blocking them.
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- guardiangod 2y agoI used to work for malware detection for a security company, and we looked at residential IP proxy services. They are very, very, very expensive for the amount of data you get. You are paying for per bit of data. Even with Amazon's money, the number quickly become untenable. It was literally cheaper for us to subscribe to business ADSL/cable/fiber optic services to our corp office buildings and thrunk them together.
- SOLAR_FIELDS 2y agoWild. While I'm sure the service is technically legal since it can be used for non-nefarious purposes, signing up for a service like that seems like a guarantee that you are contributing to problematic behavior.