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FWIW, this has driven many users to RedNote, which is even more Chinese in every way, regardless of whether it's even the same kind of platform. I doubt it woul
by ddoolin 2y ago
FWIW, this has driven many users to RedNote, which is even more Chinese in every way, regardless of whether it's even the same kind of platform. I doubt it would ever be anywhere near the same numbers as TikTok (assuming ByteDance didn't sell off) but it does illustrate the trouble with this i.e. cat-and-mouse game.
Edited for word choice.
- tsunamifury 2y agoIt asserts how critically powerful platform media is now and that the government sees it as an essential part of managing their citizens
- ddoolin 2y agoI agree. I'm not sure if I think all of this is good or not. Even if you, a gov't, didn't have an interest in managing your citizens vis-a-vis some platform, it doesn't mean other govt's don't have that interest, so maybe there's some validity to it in that case. But all of that raises even more questions, like "so what?" and "to what end?"
- cwillu 2y agoIt's not ostensibly, it's an app completely focused on china; did you mean a different word?
- ddoolin 2y agoProbably. I didn't know that about it when I used that word, but a sibling comment also confirms this, so thanks for the correction.
- tmnvdb 2y agoThis is very misleading "news" and it doesn't illustrate anything, a bunch of users installed rednote out of protest, but this is a fully chinese app with 100% chinese content and 99% of users will move to youtube, instagram, etc Fake news.
- bbno4 2y agoLooks like you have never used TikTok or RedNote. Chinese users are starting to caption their videos in English. American users are posting regularly. It is the number 1 app in my country right now, because of the TikTok ban. Look up the playstore and you will see. Download it for yourself and you will see.
- tmnvdb 2y agoAccording to CNN, roughly 700,000 people have installed Rednote—though that figure only represents those who have tested the app and doesn’t necessarily reflect sustained usage. By comparison, TikTok is said to have around 110 million users in the United States, meaning 700,000 installs amount to less than 1% of TikTok’s user base. Meanwhile, YouTube’s user numbers in the U.S. are estimated at 240 million, but it’s unlikely to gain many new downloads since almost everyone already has the app. In my view, it’s unrealistic to think Rednote will replace TikTok.
- shock-value 2y agoI don’t think anyone thinks RedNote will replace TikTok — it’s potentially subject to the same ban after all. But it illustrates the general dissatisfaction among TikTok users with the other mainstream US social content platforms.
- johnnyanmac 2y agoSo what number do we determine it to be a matter of national security? 10 million? 50 million?
- senko 2y ago> 700,000 installs amount to less than 1% of TikTok’s user base. 700k in how much time? RN tops the (Play Store) charts here (EU/Croatia) as well, and anecdotally there's a lot of word of mouth growth. Even though TikTok will not get banned over here. > It’s unrealistic to think Rednote will replace TikTok. Possibly, but it does have a foot in the door. It doesn't look like they were ready for western audience so remains to be seen if they can seize on the opportunity.
- blackeyeblitzar 2y agoI feel like the protest move to RedNote will be short lived. The censorship there is draconian - if you say even the slightest thing that offends the CCP on red note, you get banned. See this discussion on the subreddit for TikTok (https://www.reddit.com/r/TikTok/comments/1i2wll3/how_to_not_get_banned_on_rednote_according_to/ https://www.reddit.com/r/TikTok/comments/1i2wll3/how_to_not_...). Something I read that’s interesting - RedNote changed the English name to cover their actual name - the Chinese name is little red book, as in the red book of Mao (not sure if true).
- gs17 2y ago> the Chinese name is little red book, as in the red book of Mao (not sure if true) That is the Chinese name of the app (although I've heard mixed reports on if "little red book" as a term for the book actually common in China). The founder claims it's because of the founder's "career at Bain & Company and education at the Stanford Graduate School of Business" which both use red, but I'm pretty sure it's a pun on his name also being Mao.
- mplanchard 2y agoIf it reaches more than 1 million monthly active American users, it too can be subject to the same scrutiny under the law in question.
- est 2y agoIt runs and operates outside US. How exactly would you enforce the ban? Seize the domain?
- mplanchard 2y agoI don’t know the details of this app’s corporate structure, but if it’s developed here and user data stays here it would not qualify under the act. Based on the context of your and other comments I assumed it was also a foreign-controlled app
- est 2y agoThe REDnot is not a "foreign-controlled" app, it's a foreign app, and it does not target the US market. The US citizens chose to use a non-US app. How would US enforce a ban? Send marines to Shanghai and capture CEOs?
- mplanchard 2y agoOh I misread your comment (read /inside/ rather than /outside/ for some reason), but obviously the same way they’re going to ban tiktok? Make it illegal for the app stores to host.
- chis 2y ago... the same way tiktok is being banned? It is going to be removed from the app store
- gs17 2y agoREDnote is explicitly "小红书国际版", or "Little Red Book International Version" and is in English in US app stores. It's definitely targeting non-Chinese users.
- marknutter 2y agoSure, guy, and Bluesky will become the new Twitter.
- skyyler 2y agoA lot of my friends have stopped using twitter and have started using Bluesky.