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What a strangely beautiful sight. While I was excited to see ship land, I'm also happy I get to see videos of this!
by Cu3PO42 2y ago
What a strangely beautiful sight. While I was excited to see ship land, I'm also happy I get to see videos of this!
- afavour 2y agoAs long as the debris has no effect wherever it lands, I agree with you
- verzali 2y agoA lot of flights seem to be diverting to avoid it... https://bsky.app/profile/flightradar24.com/post/3lfvhpgmqqc24 https://bsky.app/profile/flightradar24.com/post/3lfvhpgmqqc2...
- ralfd 2y agoUnderstandable, but an over reaction. Any debris not burning up is falling down after minutes.
- Kye 2y agoWould you bet hundreds of lives and millions of dollars on that?
- ricardobeat 2y agoYes. Space debris near orbiting speeds doesn't fall straight down, it's simple physics. If anything planes much further downrange (thousands of km) should be diverted, not immediately under the re-entry point.
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- ceejayoz 2y agoIt wasn’t at orbital speeds yet.
- ricardobeat 2y agoOver 21000km/h when it broke up, compared to ~28k for stuff orbiting in LEO. Should still go quite far.
- ceejayoz 2y agoYes, although drag is gonna be… substantially higher like this as well.
- InDubioProRubio 2y agoDoes melting down not reshape metallic particles into ideal droplett parts ?
- ceejayoz 2y agoNo. https://www.nytimes.com/2025/01/02/world/africa/kenya-space-debris-rocket.html https://www.nytimes.com/2025/01/02/world/africa/kenya-space-...
- s1artibartfast 2y agoThe planes diverting were downrange. Also, I doubt they had much information to go off, and were essentially flying blind about where the debris were unless they had a direct line to NORAD. Do you have a better explanation why they are doing donuts over the pacific at the time of reentry, then were diverted? https://www.flightaware.com/live/flight/ABX3133 https://www.flightaware.com/live/flight/ABX3133 https://www.flightaware.com/live/flight/N121BZ/history/20250116/2000Z/KMDW/MBPV https://www.flightaware.com/live/flight/N121BZ/history/20250... https://www.flightaware.com/live/flight/NKS172 https://www.flightaware.com/live/flight/NKS172
- adolph 2y ago> donuts over the pacific Atlantic
- s1artibartfast 2y agoDoh!
- amcpu 2y agoNuts!
- ricardobeat 2y agoI don't have. Maybe they were indeed diverted because people got scared? Still seems pointless given the distances involved. Most reports are coming from social media / people watching flightradar24, and news media is just picking those up.
- s1artibartfast 2y agoThere are several, all at the same time, all in the same area, where the debreis was seen. Why do you think it is pointless? If I am a pilot and the tower says "debris seen heading east of Bahamas", I probably wont want to keep flying towards that direction. Yeah, it is probably low risk, but I dont have a super computer or detailed map of the Starship debris field or entry zone.
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- Kye 2y agoDoes SpaceX bother with NOTAM for its launches? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NOTAM https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NOTAM It seems like the flights should have been planned around it so no diversion would be needed.
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- enragedcacti 2y agoThey do but its not clear to me whether the area where it broke up was actually included in the original NOTAM. The NOTMAR definitely does not according to the graphic shown on the NASASpaceflight stream. They are still live so I can't link a time code but something like -4:56 in this stream as of posting: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3nM3vGdanpw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3nM3vGdanpw
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- kla-s 2y agoSince i couldn't find the time code in the video, i put a map together with both NOTAM and NOTMAR. map: https://github.com/kla-s/Space/blob/main/Map_NOTMAR_NOTAM_SpaceX_Starship_Test_Flight_7.png https://github.com/kla-s/Space/blob/main/Map_NOTMAR_NOTAM_Sp... description: https://github.com/kla-s/Space/tree/main https://github.com/kla-s/Space/tree/main Lets hope this is the year of Linux desktop and i didn't violate any licenses or made big errors ;)
- sbuttgereit 2y agoMy understanding is that there are areas which are noted as being possible debris zones across the flight path, but that aircraft are not specifically told to avoid those areas unless there an actual event to which to respond. If my understanding is correct, it seems sensible at least in a hand-wavy way: you have a few places where things are more likely to come down either unplanned or planned (immediately around the launch site and at the planned deorbit area), but then you have a wide swath of the world where, in a relatively localized area, you -might- have something come down with some warning that it will (just because the time it takes to get from altitude to where aircraft are). You close the priority areas, but you don't close the less likely areas pro-actively, but only do so reactively, it seems you'd achieve a balance between aircraft safety and air service disruptions.
- dylan604 2y agoMore as long as there were no humans onboard
- Molitor5901 2y agoI felt.. bad watching that breakup, it reminded me of Columbia.
- xattt 2y agoI don’t know why you’re getting downvoted, but I thought this too.
- throitallaway 2y agoMeta-commentary is annoying (yes, I realize the irony.)
- Molitor5901 2y agoIt's a weird deja vu feeling of uneasiness. I can't explain it, but I think also Columbia really hit me as my generation's Challenger.
- dpifke 2y agoWhich coincidentally launched 22 years ago today: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/STS-107 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/STS-107
- Molitor5901 2y agoSeeing it streak across the sky just reminded me of how important this is and how critically SpaceX must get it right before sending anyone up. I will never forget the trepidation of watching Bob and Doug go up and in tears when it was clear they made it.
- birdman3131 2y agoI remember being woken up by the thunder from Columbia. Lost it over the years but I used to have a photo of about 20 vans of people parked on our property doing the search for debris. Don't think they found any on our land but there was a 3 ft chunk about 5 miles down the road.
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- ijidak 2y agoLooks like something out of a sci-fi movie.
- mrandish 2y agoThe number of SpaceX video clips that I know are "actual things really happening" which still activate the involuntary "Sci-Fi / CGI effect" neurons in my brain is remarkable.
- bigiain 2y agoYeah. I know that feeling. That tower catch. That _had_ to be a new version of Kerbal, right? The physics looked good, but there's no way that was real...
- mrandish 2y agoIndeed. The one that still flips a bit in my brain is the two Falcon rockets landing in unison side by side. I'd say it was high-end CGI except no director would approve an effects shot of orbital rockets landing in such a perfect, cinematically choreographed way. It would just be sent back to ILM marked "Good effort, but too obviously fake. Rework to be more realistic and resubmit."
- somenameforme 2y agoJust to link that: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wbSwFU6tY1c&t=1793s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wbSwFU6tY1c&t=1793s Such an unbelievable moment. And I also think an indicator of how much better society could be if we focused more on doing amazing things. The comments on YouTube are just filled with hope optimism and general awesomeness. FWIW that link goes straight to the moneyshot - it's always so much better if you watch it all the way through. It's an amazing broadcast.
- mrandish 2y agoWhen I was in elementary school back in the 1970s, I read every sci-fi book in the tiny school library. They were all old, even then. Early stuff by Asimov, Heinlein and Bova. Paperbacks on cheap pulp with cover paintings of rockets sitting upright on alien terrain. Tiny people in space suits climbing down ladders to explore a new world. With the Apollo moon landings in recent memory, I'd read those sci-fi books late at night with a flashlight under the covers of my bed and then fall asleep thinking about how "I'll still be alive 50 years from now. I'll get to actually live in the world of the future. Maybe I'll even work in space." And by the time I graduated from high school it was already becoming clear things were going much to slow for me to even see humans colonizing Mars. And that was reality until about a decade ago. So, yeah. Watching the live video of the first successful Starship orbital launch with my teenage daughter... I got a little choked up, which surprised me. Felt like discovering a very old dream that's been buried too long. And somehow the damn thing's still alive. Or maybe I just got something in my eye. Anyway, I know it's too late for me to ever work off-planet. But maybe not for my kid... so, the dream lives on. It just had to skip a generation.
- mrandish 2y agoYes, both spectacular and beautiful. I guess Starship can now say what the legendary comedy actress (and sex symbol) of early cinema Mae West said: "When I'm good... I'm very good. But when I'm bad... I'm even better." :-) Combined with another tower catch, that's two spectacular shows for the price of one. Hopefully the onboard diagnostic telemetry immediately prior to the RUD is enough to identify the root cause so it can be corrected.
- TMWNN 2y ago>What a strangely beautiful sight. "My god, Bones, what have I done?"
- dotancohen 2y agoExcitement guaranteed
- badgersnake 2y agoIt’s a pretty expensive way to make fireworks.