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> 2. The govt is mad that they have control over the narrative on Facebook but do not on TikTok If the last four years are indicative of anything, it's that th
by lenerdenator 2y ago
> 2. The govt is mad that they have control over the narrative on Facebook but do not on TikTok
If the last four years are indicative of anything, it's that the US government has fairly limited control over the narrative on American social platforms.
I lost count of how many times I saw people typing in "FJB" and "MAGA".
- spencerflem 2y agoFacebook is extremely censored re: the genocide in Gaza TikTok is not
- lenerdenator 2y agoIs it censored, or do most people just not talk about it on Facebook? It's interesting how incredibly supportive of human rights that a platform in bed with the CCP became, no? Do you think that China's human rights bugaboos are often discussed on their internal social networks? It's amplified.
- 93po 2y agothere's a billion people on facebook, i am sure people talk about it
- lenerdenator 2y agoIt's possible, but ultimately it's hard to tell, especially in regard to the American users. The results of the election would point to the idea that most American voters aren't so perturbed by what's happening in Gaza as to want an administration that would be at least as effective in reeling in the Israelis as the Biden administration was. Whether that's right or wrong, well, that's another discussion. It's a chicken-or-the-egg problem. Do people not talk about Gaza on Facebook because it's censored, or do people not talk about Gaza on Facebook because no one was talking about it to begin with?
- spencerflem 2y agoWhich party should I vote for to help the people of Gaza?
- lenerdenator 2y agolol, doesn't matter at this point. Given the history I'd say that the incoming administration will be less sympathetic to the Gazans than the outgoing, but, again, it doesn't matter at this point.
- hersko 2y ago[flagged]
- bbqfog 2y agoThe ceasefire in the works is supported by Hamas.
- spencerflem 2y agoAs were many past ones
- suraci 2y ago[flagged]
- 93po 2y agoGreen party
- FrontierProject 2y ago>that most American voters aren't so perturbed by what's happening in Gaza as to want an administration that would be at least as effective in reeling in the Israelis as the Biden administration was. It's not hard to be at least as capable as somebody who's completly incapable. Think what you will of Trump, but in one meeting he had a solid deadline for implementing the ceasefire agreement the Biden admin has had floating since May. There weren't even any changes to it, so what the heck has Biden been doing?
- spencerflem 2y agoNo, I do not think China's bugaboos are allowed on TikTok for the exact same reason the US's are not allowed on Facebook
- lenerdenator 2y agoI mean, I've seen plenty of dissenting material against the powers-that-be on Meta platforms over the years, but okay. Police brutality (both viewpoints), COVID conspiracies, election conspiracies, etc. are not particularly hard to find on there.
- spencerflem 2y agoIs posting about CEOs allowed there?
- SpicyLemonZest 2y agoYes? I've seen plenty of Facebook posts about how CEOs are greedy, criminal, ripping us all off, etc. I'm really not sure how you could have gotten the impression that it's not allowed to talk about CEOs on Facebook.
- Fluorescence 2y agoIt is censored. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c786wlxz4jgo https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c786wlxz4jgo https://www.hrw.org/news/2023/12/20/meta-systemic-censorship-palestine-content https://www.hrw.org/news/2023/12/20/meta-systemic-censorship...
- BriggyDwiggs42 2y agoWait, but I like the issue being amplified. Do you not?
- throwawaymaths 2y agotiktok is extremely censored re: genocide in xinjiang. facebook is not.
- spencerflem 2y agoNot disagreeing, that's exactly my point, the govt wants to be able control the narrative
- suraci 2y ago[flagged]
- lenerdenator 2y ago... genocide denial is fun?
- suraci 2y ago[flagged]
- whimsicalism 2y agoi feel that we overuse the word genocide nowadays, in a way that almost amounts to holocaust trivialization
- NoGravitas 2y agoYep. The Chinese state is guilty of a number of things in Xinjiang, but genocide is not one of them.
- throwawaymaths 2y agofair. they are guilty of arresting specific ethnicity for the crime of gathering in groups, and targetting men and forbidding men to have children, and forcing women to take han husbands to dilute their ethnicity. but not genocide.
- strathmeyer 2y agoTrump won, the Russian misinformation campaign is over now. You can stop making stuff up about Jews now.
- kristopolous 2y agoOr, maybe, those things they don't see as a problem. These shifty foreigners, however... Xenophobia isn't just some old timey things we use to do
- ok123456 2y ago"FJB" and "MAGA" are within the bounds of allowed political discourse and were encouraged. "Throw the bums out" without any additional coherent political project is precisely what the elites allow and what allows them to maintain power.
- lenerdenator 2y agoI mean, if you want to ignore the fact that the JB was Joe Biden and he was quite literally President of the United States when that was a trend, sure. Same with MAGA after January 6th.
- ok123456 2y agoWhy would you have to "ignore" those facts? It was a concerted effort to channel quiescently conservative voters into national electoral politics. Neither of those challenged the super-structure.